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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #2988

    @Bones I thought that was Foster being really kind to Robinson who has been the main guy fucking things up at head office. I think Foster is a good guy and deeply cares about his players and peers, just don't rate him on the coaching side of things so much. I'd much rather interpret it as genuine than contrived or staged.

    Maybe it was Foster reminding Robinson who the boss is... now that his job is secure of course!

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  • broughieB Offline
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    #2989

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @chimoaus said in Foster:

    Pretty Happy that Schmidt and Ryan will have a big influence going forward. At least they can see from the outside how shit it has been and make changes. The key is Foster listening and letting them make the necesarry changes.

    Schmidt's involvement is Foster's idea. He's been trying to bring him on board for two years.

    @Victor-Meldrew Because he understands his limitations or because he is a great eye for talent?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to broughie on last edited by
    #2990

    @broughie TBF I think he wanted him in his team back in 2019, but wasnt available....so probably both?

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by nostrildamus
    #2991

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster:

    I just think it could have been managed better, especially given Robinson called Foster his good friend earlier and the chair gave his "absolute backing and support" to both in the same sentence.
    “I want to absolutely emphasise going forward that both Ian as head coach and Mark as chief executive have the board's absolute backing and support.”

    Think you're hearing ghosts in the attic.

    no attic so it nust be your imaginung.

    including any notion the NZR are good at optics

    'Pretty poor': All Blacks criticised over 'tone deaf' International Women's Day post

    'Pretty poor': All Blacks criticised over 'tone deaf' International Women's Day post

    New Zealand Rugby were swift to issue and apology after a truly heinous attempt to acknowledge International Women's Day. Read more here.

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by
    #2992

    @nostrildamus said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster:

    I just think it could have been managed better, especially given Robinson called Foster his good friend earlier and the chair gave his "absolute backing and support" to both in the same sentence.
    “I want to absolutely emphasise going forward that both Ian as head coach and Mark as chief executive have the board's absolute backing and support.”

    Think you're hearing ghosts in the attic.

    no attic so it nust be ykur imaginung.

    includibg any notion the NZR are good at optics

    'Pretty poor': All Blacks criticised over 'tone deaf' International Women's Day post

    'Pretty poor': All Blacks criticised over 'tone deaf' International Women's Day post

    New Zealand Rugby were swift to issue and apology after a truly heinous attempt to acknowledge International Women's Day. Read more here.

    "Truly heinous attempt". FFS

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    #2993

    @chchfanatic said in Foster:

    @Tim he definitely wanted the job. And was offered it last week. Then shafted this week.

    I reckon theres truth to that!
    According to my sauce Halangahus shiny new 'Head Coach' name tags had arrived at Blues HQ!

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #2994

    @Nogusta said in Foster:

    @chchfanatic said in Foster:

    @Tim he definitely wanted the job. And was offered it last week. Then shafted this week.

    I reckon theres truth to that!
    According to my sauce Halangahus shiny new 'Head Coach' name tags had arrived at Blues HQ!

    Sounds like a lot of people getting ahead of themselves

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  • WingerW Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
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    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Actually given how the All Blacks have played this year they could ALL be tricky. Not sure where your confidence is coming from.

    Remember we've got super coach Jason Ryan on board now

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #2996

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster:

    I'm sure as f**k that NZR watches the Fern.
    Only problem is they are always one step behind some of the rugby minds on here.

    You’re not wrong. I’m always here to help too. All they have to do is get 6, 7, 8 and 9 sorted because the rest picks itself…

    Bower, Taylor, Newell, Whitelock, Barrett….Mo’unga Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan

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  • boobooB Offline
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    #2997

    @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster:

    I'm sure as f**k that NZR watches the Fern.
    Only problem is they are always one step behind some of the rugby minds on here.

    You’re not wrong. I’m always here to help too. All they have to do is get 6, 7, 8 and 9 sorted because the rest picks itself…

    Bower, Taylor, Newell, Whitelock, Barrett….Mo’unga Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan

    Blackadder
    Grace...

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #2998

    @booboo said in Foster:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster:

    I'm sure as f**k that NZR watches the Fern.
    Only problem is they are always one step behind some of the rugby minds on here.

    You’re not wrong. I’m always here to help too. All they have to do is get 6, 7, 8 and 9 sorted because the rest picks itself…

    Bower, Taylor, Newell, Whitelock, Barrett….Mo’unga Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan

    Blackadder
    Grace...

    Injured and not in the squad, but if…

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster:

    I'm sure as f**k that NZR watches the Fern.
    Only problem is they are always one step behind some of the rugby minds on here.

    You’re not wrong. I’m always here to help too. All they have to do is get 6, 7, 8 and 9 sorted because the rest picks itself…

    Bower, Taylor, Newell, Whitelock, Barrett….Mo’unga Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan

    I’m so glad that even you don’t see a place for Ennor

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #3000

    @Crucial said in Foster:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster:

    I'm sure as f**k that NZR watches the Fern.
    Only problem is they are always one step behind some of the rugby minds on here.

    You’re not wrong. I’m always here to help too. All they have to do is get 6, 7, 8 and 9 sorted because the rest picks itself…

    Bower, Taylor, Newell, Whitelock, Barrett….Mo’unga Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan

    I’m so glad that even you don’t see a place for Ennor

    Haven’t named my bench yet 😉

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    wrote on last edited by No Quarter
    #3001

    Well, there's a pretty strong argument to be made that the assistant coaches are at least as important, if not more important than the head coach, and it was pretty clear Foster's assistants were not much chop at the top level.

    When you bring Ryan and Schimdt into the fold our coaching team takes on a completely different look. Ryan has already made a difference in the forwards by simplifying things - it always looked to me the ABs were trying to be too clever for our own good, so that's a big step in the right direction.

    TBH I'm OK with this decision, the players get some continuity with a coach they clearly respect, and the coaching team gets a big shake up at the same time.

    That's not to say I think Foster is a great coach, and we'd probably have been better off with Robertson if he was given the job when they extended Foster's contract, but at the end of the day bringing him in now would have caused a fair bit of disruption close to the RWC.

    It's hard to take too much from one win, but that was one hell of a win against the odds and gives the team plenty to build on moving forward.

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  • R Offline
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    replied to dogmeat on last edited by
    #3002

    @dogmeat You could also argue that he had years prior to that to build the squad he wanted. Or that he did really poorly taking a very similar squad to 11th the following year. Then 10th. Then Rennie came in and won the comp.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by
    #3003

    @nostrildamus said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster:

    I just think it could have been managed better, especially given Robinson called Foster his good friend earlier and the chair gave his "absolute backing and support" to both in the same sentence.
    “I want to absolutely emphasise going forward that both Ian as head coach and Mark as chief executive have the board's absolute backing and support.”

    Think you're hearing ghosts in the attic.

    no attic so it nust be your imaginung.

    including any notion the NZR are good at optics

    'Pretty poor': All Blacks criticised over 'tone deaf' International Women's Day post

    'Pretty poor': All Blacks criticised over 'tone deaf' International Women's Day post

    New Zealand Rugby were swift to issue and apology after a truly heinous attempt to acknowledge International Women's Day. Read more here.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by Victor Meldrew
    #3004

    @nostrildamus said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster:

    I just think it could have been managed better, especially given Robinson called Foster his good friend earlier and the chair gave his "absolute backing and support" to both in the same sentence.
    “I want to absolutely emphasise going forward that both Ian as head coach and Mark as chief executive have the board's absolute backing and support.”

    Think you're hearing ghosts in the attic.

    no attic so it nust be your imaginung.

    including any notion the NZR are good at optics

    'Pretty poor': All Blacks criticised over 'tone deaf' International Women's Day post

    'Pretty poor': All Blacks criticised over 'tone deaf' International Women's Day post

    New Zealand Rugby were swift to issue and apology after a truly heinous attempt to acknowledge International Women's Day. Read more here.

    That's zero, zip, nada to do Foster and Robinson patting each other on the shoulder.

    On the article, I agree. Terrible optics. They should have told the complainers to fuck right off for being sexist fluffybunnies. Why shouldn't men celebrate IWD?

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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3005

    One win and suddenly the "learnings" have been learned? You guys crack me up!

    Foster has learned nothing. We will be back to players out of position, favourites never dropped, a backline relying on individual brilliance etc.

    If he capable of more he would have learned it years -- decades -- ago.

    If he cared about results he would have shown a lot more humility after his last couple of years with the Chiefs. And then his recent losses. But no, he thinks all is going sweet! He's utterly deluded.

    And the results will remain lackluster as long as he remains anything but pure figurehead.

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3006

    What I find incredible is that he got 8 years at the Chiefs. Is he a fůcking hypnotist or something? Him and effing Mark Hammett.

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  • F Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3007

    So as long as Foster is only in charge of tackle bags, lunch buffets, keeping team morale up and learnings - I think we will be okay with Schmidt and Ryan doing most of the real coaching and thinking.

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