@mg welcome aboard. Cracking start to kick off with replying to and critiquing your own posts.

@antipodean Probably almost as bad as if someone discovered where they're buried?

That we lost to Ireland.

http://thespinoff.co.nz/featured/08-10-2016/aaron-smith-got-screwed-and-stuff-could-end-up-getting-sued/

Aaron Smith got screwed – and Stuff could end up getting sued

By Natalya King
October 8, 2016
Aaron Smith’s indiscretions have been the biggest media story of the week. But lawyer Natalya King believes both the couple who made the recording and the outlets which broke the story may have committed an invasion of privacy.

Amidst the red-eyed rage that greeted the news that All Blacks have sex – and sometimes have sex with women who are not their partners (what a shock) – there was one somewhat unexpected voice of calm. The New Zealand Herald reports that, discussing the matter on the Paul Henry Show, Judith Collins admitted “the situation wasn’t her business.”

Quite. In fact, the law might go so far as to say not only was it not Judith’s business, or yours or mine for that matter, but that recording Aaron Smith’s escapade and sending it into a news outlet was actually an invasion of his privacy.

In the legal sense, an invasion of privacy is the “highly offensive” disclosure of private facts. That is, if Aaron had a reasonable expectation of privacy in the facts of the event, and if the average person considered that the publicity given to those facts was highly offensive then Stuff (or the couple who enthusiastically recorded the incident) may well find themselves on the wrong end of an invasion of privacy claim.

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Absent some voluntary disclosure by way of, for example, an intentionally leaked sex tape, it’s usually pretty clear that sex between two consenting adults is a private matter. And yes, I know, part of the appeal in having sex in a toilet cubicle is the risk of getting caught, but when ahem push comes to shove, it’s a little difficult to see how one’s sexual activity in a confined and indoor space with four walls is anything other than a private fact.

Some, including Stuff, the aforementioned receiver of the amorous audio-recording, have asserted that the toilet cubicle was a public place, but that’s not quite true. Aside from the obvious problem that the entire purpose of a closed door is to create a private space, Christchurch Airport is a private business that prohibits filming within the airport without its express permission, and without payment of a “location charge”.

See also: Eight key learnings from the Aaron Smith toilet sex scandal

Even if it were correct to say that the airport is a public space (and good luck getting a judge on board with that one), that doesn’t mean that Smith’s sexual activity automatically loses its private status. The law still protects a degree of privacy in public – for context, the UK Courts found that photos of Naomi Campbell on the street outside a drug treatment centre were disclosure of a private fact,¹ and the New Zealand courts have protected as private a conversation between an allegedly intoxicated driver and her husband following a car crash on a public highway in New Zealand.²

Just like Naomi Campbell (albeit probably not quite like Naomi Campbell) one issue for Aaron Smith has been his celebrity status. All Blacks, so the theory goes, give up their right to privacy as soon as they get Steve’s call. But that’s not quite right either. In the eyes of the law, a person’s right to privacy can be eroded if there’s some legitimate public concern in the matter. Legitimate public concern, according to the courts, covers issues like public health and safety, or the conduct of the government. That might automatically mean that some well-known figures, like politicians, have a lesser right to privacy, but on the sliding scale of celebrity status vs public concern, an All Black and his sexual proclivities are fairly low level. Put another way, two people using a disabled toilet as a space in which to carry out their infidelity might be distasteful, but it’s not a matter of national importance.

Put in that context, the only remaining question is whether the publicity of Aaron’s tryst in the toilet – and its accompanying audiotape – was highly offensive. For my part, when John Key’s commenting on your sex life it’s gone well beyond that.

@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

Someone is trying hard to resuscitate this fluffybunny's image but it's too little too late after she sunk herself with her actions. And she definitely is not hawt!

She is when you cut her hair and put 13 on her back.

@taniwharugby said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

What I dont like is where a win might be sacrificed solely with an eye on a RWC, if this ends up being the case then we will end up with friendlies and less interest in between RWCs.

Poor old Bonesetta trying to comfort me near the end of the match. "Oh well at least these games don't matter". The confusion and regret on her face from the glare she got back was priceless. Bless her, she's into rugby in a big way but only been that way since she met me...actually really picked up on the nuances really well.

May she rest in peace. Anyone want to buy a shovel? Only used once.

@Yeahtheboys said in Hardik Pandya controversy:

Jsut saw that everyone’s anal about his comments and I think it’s pretty bullshit how pc this world is. “Free speech” my ass. But since it’s againsy women no one will dear speak up or they’ll be regarded as sexist

Not everyone.

For example, I have no idea what you are talking about.

@canes4life I'm not hard to please. A fleeting moment out of many doesn't make a player.

@canes4life said in Pasifika SR team:

he showed plenty of class in the cameos he made

He did fuck all.

@canes4life said in Pasifika SR team:

but you're adament he will be better than Love in his first year...righto

I never said adamant. But see above, if I was adamant, it wouldn't be hard to believe. JGB is a better 10 than Love at the moment. Love is a fairly handy fullback from what I've seen, but you're not talking about fullback...

@canes4life said in Pasifika SR team:

@bones I will be fairly happy to say ‘I told you so’ when Love pulls on the black jersey in the future. Plus NPC stats don’t mean anything, especially when you’re a 10 behind a shithouse Wellington pack.

Get used to the name Bonesy, Love has already shown glimpses of brilliance even at the raw age of 20 and is only going to get better.

I'm pretty used to the name Bonesy already.

What I'm not a fan of is watching my team get pumped because the guy supposed to be doing the steering hasn't got his licence yet. OH BUT WOW CHIP KICK TRY WHICH NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF RUGBY HAS DONE!!!!

Anyway, I'm pretty confident McClutchie will show more than Love in his first year of SR.

@bobily2 said in Pasifika SR team:

@canes4life said in Pasifika SR team:

@stargazer Apples and Oranges. From what I’ve seen of Love so far he looks to be a better prospect long term. He’s bigger, he’s better defensively, I think his all round game is better and I think he is the 10 for the future. Love is certainly better if you compare where McClutchie was at the same age.

I think it’s a little over the top saying he’s the coaches pet, but I guess that’s an automatic tag that you Hawkes Bay lot put on Wellington players these days.

Anyway, when they square off against one another we will get the real picture.

I know tackle percentages aren't everything, but Love is at 58% tackles completed, and McClutchie is at 83% for the current NPC season.

That's classic c4l.

I'd take McClutchie over Love in a heartbeat. Unless I was trying to make my team look rudderless.

@crucial I gave up after episode one but kept hearing/seeing about how it was good, so tried again and maybe got through another two or three episodes. Not my bag, I don't get it.

@nta said in Hawt discussion (lots of PG13 gifs/pics):

@bones said in Hawt discussion (lots of PG13 gifs/pics):

@nta said in Hawt discussion (lots of PG13 gifs/pics):

@bones said in Hawt discussion (lots of PG13 gifs/pics):

@nta his penis?

I didn't think about that.

Because I'm not into penis.

Surprise!

As in "Surprise-there-is-a-penis"? Or "Surprise-Bones-is-into-penis"?

Context.

I'm as innocent as they come.

@nta said in Hawt discussion (lots of PG13 gifs/pics):

@bones said in Hawt discussion (lots of PG13 gifs/pics):

@nta his penis?

I didn't think about that.

Because I'm not into penis.

Surprise!

@nta his penis?

Finished 2 season of Missions, looks like there is a season 3 planned.

Yeah was a good watch eh, found it quite compelling. In French mostly, so subs for most of it.

A dedicated, fractured group of astronauts on the first manned mission to Mars. Their goal: discover a new world. But someone, or something, got there first.

@machpants said in NH club rugby:

@bones said in NH club rugby:

@catogrande said in NH club rugby:

“cultural appropriation”

Care to enlighten?

Exeter chiefs using American Indian Chief as their symbol, also supporters wearing faux Indian headdress. Not like Celtic Exeter had its own chiefs it could use!

I'm pretty sure Wasps haven't signed up any actual Wasps.