Foster, Robertson etc
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Well, I'm happy with the status quo after that last test. We're surrounding Foz with good people now, so hopefully that works. His selection of assistants has been arse, thats now been removed and he's got good cattle in Ryan and Schmidt.
The players love him, the players wanted to give plums and moar the arse after the last NH tour. Foz being too loyal kept them on. Same as his player selection, so hopefully that will change too.
Robertson, again hopefully, has been given the wink for post RWC, and you've got Ryan as the continuity card that the NZRU gets such a hard on over! And he can take whoever he wants in with him. The new broom sweeping clean.
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Reading further down in this at Robinson's quotes it sounds like the Board told him to get in line and that he had fucked up badly reputation wise.
The whole 'we are learning, we get things wrong' is a smokescreen for incompetence because those were all things that he, and his comms advisors, are paid to get right and at this level of appointed should. They aren't some junior execs learning lessons as the climb the corporate tree.Well let's hope so. It seemed to me there was serious anger from the players at the way the team & staff had been treated by Robinson and it looked pretty justifiable
Just park that shit and concentrate on improving things rather than digging even bigger holes and make sure any relationship issues between NZR & the players & coaches are sorted.
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Well, I'm happy with the status quo after that last test. We're surrounding Foz with good people now, so hopefully that works. His selection of assistants has been arse, thats now been removed and he's got good cattle in Ryan and Schmidt.
The players love him, the players wanted to give plums and moar the arse after the last NH tour. Foz being too loyal kept them on. Same as his player selection, so hopefully that will change too.
Robertson, again hopefully, has been given the wink for post RWC, and you've got Ryan as the continuity card that the NZRU gets such a hard on over! And he can take whoever he wants in with him. The new broom sweeping clean.
Who is this new Bartman and when did he learn to type?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@taniwharugby said in Foster:
“He has been under a lot of pressure, and I know Foz (Foster) doesn’t want to make it about himself, but I just want everyone to know that all the players have got his back. He’s a great coach, he’s got great coaches beside him, and we back him 100 percent. I hope everyone that reads this backs us because we are going to get it.”
Asked if Foster deserved to stay in charge, Savea’s response: “Like I said, he’s my coach. That’s it.”What are they going to get?
Foster's back I think. The sentiment is really strong and complicates any Foster decision by NZR.
“'That's my coach, I back him 100 per cent'.....He has been under a lot of pressure, and I know Foz (Foster) doesn’t want to make it about himself, but I just want everyone to know that all the players have got his back. He’s a great coach, he’s got great coaches beside him, and we back him 100 percent. I hope everyone that reads this backs us because we are going to get it.”
Ardie is such a nice fella.
I wonder how many of the rest of the squad feel this way ?
And when he gets a new coach, he'll get 100% support too. You're never going to say your current coach is ratshit, doesn't make for a happy relationship!
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We won't lose another test this year.
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@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
ATM can stand for so many things.
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
ATM can stand for so many things.
At The Moment, not sure what else it stands for apart from cash machine!
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
You’re forgetting Scotland are due too. This is their year.
Actually given how the All Blacks have played this year they could ALL be tricky. Not sure where your confidence is coming from.
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
You’re forgetting Scotland are due too. This is their year.
Actually given how the All Blacks have played this year they could ALL be tricky. Not sure where your confidence is coming from.
Nowhere it was in response to the 'we will win all the rest'. I'm thinking we won't, min 2 more losses
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
You’re forgetting Scotland are due too. This is their year.
Actually given how the All Blacks have played this year they could ALL be tricky. Not sure where your confidence is coming from.
Nowhere it was in response to the 'we will win all the rest'. I'm thinking we won't, min 2 more losses
Ok. I did the safe fern thing and went on the offence to a slight that probably wasn’t there. As you were.
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
I didn't see much in the Aussie series to be scared of
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@mariner4life said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
I didn't see much in the Aussie series to be scared of
Argentina could be a pretty stern test from what I've seen of them. Hoping we see continued improvement - don't think any of us could survive another Ground Hog Day of one good Test followed by two poor ones.
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@mariner4life said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
We won't lose another test this year.
Oz in Oz, Eng in Eng (last test) will be the tricky ones. I don't see us beating England as we are playing ATM
I didn't see much in the Aussie series to be scared of
Me neither, but this is Foster Master of inconsistancy we are talking about. A couple of good games against Arg, then relaxed in Oz, boom - loss. We may even see the Blacklash in Eden Park
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
so what happens if we lose the Bledisloe and then a couple on the EOYT? The time to move was straight after the Irish series, but didnt, now, they need to give him what he needs.
Still unsure how Teflon McLeod has stayed through all this, more so while other coaches under Fozzie were dragged through this too, McLeod was barely mentioned.
NZR really seem clueless.
Then we're SCREWED!
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The decision is fair enough at this point. Razor might not want to be parachuted in on short notice and frankly he deserves his proper coronation. They can’t keep having reviews. They’ve got one if not the best forwards coaches. Players love Fozzy. Yup.
Now for the love of god, please extend Razor’s deal til 2050. Can’t have him coaching England.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster:
@nostrildamus said in Foster:
Ok you are all probably right I am just still upset our worst coach in recent memory gets the best coaches to help him fall over the line.
Unfortunately.
There's plenty of coaching nous in the mix now between Ryan, Feek, Cron, Strawbridge and now Schmidt..
Fozzie will be the media fluffer and the boys' shoulder to cry on while the assistants create the master plans.
So basically team manager like I suggested before. The coach one tries to keep away from actual coaching.
See also: Sir Clive Woodward, AKA The Bus. Well he weren't no coach. Copyright M Regan esq.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
Excellent. Another 150 pages of this thread.
A quick summary in case you needed it... :
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Foster should never have been appointed in the first place
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We need to sack Foster and appoint Robertson now
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Robertson wouldn't want to take over after Foster
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Foster will never sack his assistants as they are "family"
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Foster has hung his assistants out to dry by getting rid of them
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Foster is fat
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The players say they support Foster but they are just saying that coz (insert preferred reason here)
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It's going to take some time to turn around Foster's mess and it's silly to say new coach will achieve instant results
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Jason Ryan has achieved miracles in two weeks
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Robertson wouldn't want to take over after Foster anyway and Robertson's too good a coach to want to work with Foster as an Assistant
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NZR have completely lost the plot and Foster should never have been appointed in the first place
Classic Fern thread
You've finally found your true calling.
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