Aust badly lack depth. Its an issue for a combined super rugby competition

@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@muddyriver Define vulnerable. Given there are still cases where young people without co-morbidities die. What mortality rate is acceptable?

I suspect playing God with decisions like these is a lot more difficult for politicians than making them from the comfort of a keyboard (not having a go at you BTW).

Evidence to date is that any solution that relies on everyone doing the right thing for the common good is doomed to fail.

Out walking last night almost everyone had slipped straight back into social distancing but with more masks worn but to counter that you have the selfish pricks who fled Auckland ahead of the lockdown because of; ya know the inconvenience of it all.

I hear this.

When you are deciding an acceptable mortality rate, please include a close family member(Wife/Husband or kid) as a death as one of these and still see if that mortality rate is acceptable.

So why not reduce the speed limit to 40 MPH. After all this would save lives. Or ban rugby as this will protect people from injury some serious that will affect a person for life. Or close down all unhealthy food outlets. Let the nanny state go wild. The other option is education or advise and accepting variations in life where our rights and freedoms are maintained. We are all different and especially the young don't want to be treated like children who can't enjoy life.

My view is giving up our right and freedoms to MAYBE buy a little safety is a recipe for disaster. It just won't end. Already the economy has been ruined. And lives with it. I'm older now. Its up to me to protect myself. Not ruin healthy law abiding citizens lives to maybe protect me. I can stay inside and wear a mask and self isolate if I wish

@SammyC said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

Bunch of idiots, can't see anything but a continuation of the downward slide we are currently on.

Brad Mooar (if confirmed) is not a huge surprise. I've heard that Razor and him don't really get along.

Razor is a long way from ready for this job. Key for him is to leave the safe CRUSADERS / Canterbury environment and to get some overseas experience. And mature a bit

@number9 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

The matchday 23 is as follows (test caps in brackets):

Very safe Team, happy for Clarke, Sotutu and Vaa'i . The only thing out of the ordinary is Reiko at Centre and ALB on the bench.

Reiko is a good selection at center. The odd selection is BB at FB and JB on the wing. I would prefer Clarke starting, JB at FB and BB in the reserves. Either BB starts at 1st or in the reserves. And I'm unsure if Goodhue is the best option at 2nd 5. Maybe ALB is a better option

There are solutions. Like

NZers to vote for a party that respects our right and freedoms (hopefully there is one) in the coming election. For example the right of a healthy law abiding citizen to go about their business without a Govt using any excuse to remove them. But if we collectively applaud as they are all removed. The future will get worse.

I feel a bit sorry for Holland after his after match interview. He's so clearly totally out of his depth. But seems like a good enough guy. I just can't see him righting things though as he hasn't a clue

I could point him in the right direction (as many could) but maybe hes too head strong to listen to wiser heads Not me but experienced ex coaches within the Canes region. And that's what he (and Gibbes) must do

Chiefs won the 2nd half 28-3

Canes are just a poorly selected and poorly coached side. If the coaches don't have a complete rethink (and maybe ask for some outside help as they don't seem to have a clue) they will be lucky to win a game this year

@Kruse said in Coronavirus - Overall:

@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:

This article today summed up my general feelings about the 'open society while protecting the vulnerable' option:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/let-the-virus-run-but-protect-the-vulnerable-easier-said-than-done-20200820-p55nk5.html

I was thinking about that recently. The whole "let's do Sweden, but protect the elderly/vulnerable" theory... what does that look like? Turn rest-homes into quarantine zones? Force or strongly recommend that all elderly move into rest-homes? And then, as the article focuses on - what to do with the workers in these rest-homes... make their jobs as a mandatory "live-in" role?
It just doesn't work.

Why force the elderly to move into rest homes. They can stay at home and have food etc delivered if needed. As friends (who are not old) whose immune system are shot (one has cancer) have done in the UK. And not all older people are weak and sickly. Some still have a robust immune system and are in good health.

We will never achieve a 100% safe world and its folly to try. There needs to be a sensible risk cost assessment.

@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

What a complete shambles this has become.

It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools

Yes , yes their inability to prevent a hurricane is an obvious sign of incompetence.

Not knowing that this was probable, and then having rules in place to prevent any decent contingency venue, or postponement days, could be considered incompetence I think.

I’m not sure postponement days would have worked and the logistics of moving accommodation and fans would test anyone. It’s a shit situation though

Its a shit situation that had a good likelihood of occurring. Yet the organizers seemed to be totally unprepared for.

@LagerLout

. I'm not sure we would have beaten Ireland with a full strength team either.

Just starting with two locks and the in form HB would have been enough. And why didn't ALB start or at least make the reserves. NZ have the talent but dumb selections cost us this game. Such a shame.

36-16 FT to Wellington

26 -. 13 well

13-12 manawatu

12-6 to Wellington at HT

12-3

@winger said in Manawatū v Wellington:

7-3

To Wellington

7-3

@stargazer said in Canterbury v Hawke's Bay:

What did Wellington beat Canterbury by a few years back. A thrashing

@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@mn5 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@taniwharugby apparently Tamaki breached his bail conditions by attending the protest today. What will the police do about it?

Lock the fluffybunny up ?

Sigh, if only.

Maybe they will afterwards. Cuffing him in front of a thousand anti vaxxers might have caused unnecessary disturbance

2000 wasn't it.

Shame that HB never hit 50. But still . Looks like the force are getting a top notch coach