All Blacks vs Wales
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:
JB looks to be a fixture in the 12 jersey with another v.good performance. It allows Beaudy to play 15 and have 3 playmakers plus a huge boot to take the pressure off Richie.
This. Don't need spectacular, just competent.
Lol you guys quoting and agreeing with a post that states Jordie is a play maker, while at the same time saying he's a crash and bash merchant that needs to work on his vision and passing game. Which is it? Can't be both.
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a question for those with a but more knowledge, is it just me or do we not put our wingers in space as much as other teams seem too. CC was poor, and reece was quiet...but. it feels like we dont have any plays that are aimed at getting them on the outside of their man....old school winger with a head of steam and the white line ahead of them
if so is that us just thinking we can make more ground going through the middle with RI and jordie....or are we still struggling with defence coming up and opting to try and recycle?
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Wales:
a question for those with a but more knowledge, is it just me or do we not put our wingers in space as much as other teams seem too. CC was poor, and reece was quiet...but. it feels like we dont have any plays that are aimed at getting them on the outside of their man....old school winger with a head of steam and the white line ahead of them
if so is that us just thinking we can make more ground going through the middle with RI and jordie....or are we still struggling with defence coming up and opting to try and recycle?
For the last game, they started trying to go wide, and both teams dropping it in humid/slippery conditions moved the team to a more conservative game plan.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:
JB looks to be a fixture in the 12 jersey with another v.good performance. It allows Beaudy to play 15 and have 3 playmakers plus a huge boot to take the pressure off Richie.
This. Don't need spectacular, just competent.
Lol you guys quoting and agreeing with a post that states Jordie is a play maker, while at the same time saying he's a crash and bash merchant that needs to work on his vision and passing game. Which is it? Can't be both.
I think a fair comment could be that JB has shown how effective he is at crash ball and it will be interesting to see if he can also play the distributor in future tests. Stating categorically that he's just a smash and bash merchant and simply doesn't have the ability to distribute is pretty weird.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Seems The Guardian doesn't have a no dickheads policy
It's the Guardian. You have to be one to work there. But that obviously isn't confined to them.
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@Stargazer Only took us 15 years to forgive him for that certain forward pass.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Stargazer Only took us 15 years to forgive him for that certain forward pass.
Forgive?
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Stargazer Only took us 15 years to forgive him for that certain forward pass.
Nah I’m a few years off on that one. I still haven’t forgiven Chris White and Kaplan for not awarding Mils that try in 2003.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Crucial Don't know, but I assume it had to do with officiating his milestone game?
I think that part was obvious
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Stargazer Only took us 15 years to forgive him for that certain forward pass.
Nah I’m a few years off on that one. I still haven’t forgiven Chris White and Kaplan for not awarding Mils that try in 2003.
dont even get me started on colin hawke!
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Seems The Guardian doesn't have a no dickheads policy
It's the Guardian. You have to be one to work there. But that obviously isn't confined to them.
Why on earth would this dickhead choose the name of an infamous serial stalker as his pen name??
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:
JB looks to be a fixture in the 12 jersey with another v.good performance. It allows Beaudy to play 15 and have 3 playmakers plus a huge boot to take the pressure off Richie.
This. Don't need spectacular, just competent.
Lol you guys quoting and agreeing with a post that states Jordie is a play maker, while at the same time saying he's a crash and bash merchant that needs to work on his vision and passing game. Which is it? Can't be both.
I think a fair comment could be that JB has shown how effective he is at crash ball and it will be interesting to see if he can also play the distributor in future tests. Stating categorically that he's just a smash and bash merchant and simply doesn't have the ability to distribute is pretty weird.
I'd also agree that's a fair summation. My crash ball merchant reference was solely in relation to his 2 performances in 12 in black this year, and clearly against Wales this was the game plan
To reiterate, I think he's been really good, has done what was asked for sure. Shored up that channel on D, provided a great crash option, I think Richie has really benefited from having him there.
Where I take a step back is when people claim his best attributes are his vision and distribution. I mean, thats just bollocks. He is a beast of a man, runs hard, tackles hard, great in the air, with a big (mostly) boot. But he has hardly been creative at FB, and while he made have done some playmaking at lower levels, we haven't seen it in black - yet. As we all know, it's a lot harder to be an effective creator at the top level- time and space aren't there, scrambling defenses are better - it's just harder to make great decisions and to execute on them.
Fingers crossed he gets the time to develop there now.
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@ARHS said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Seems The Guardian doesn't have a no dickheads policy
It's the Guardian. You have to be one to work there. But that obviously isn't confined to them.
Why on earth would this dickhead choose the name of an infamous serial stalker as his pen name??
Didn't realise that. Makes him an even bigger cnut.
