Terrific display by Boks forwards. Their lineout was the winning of the game. But I thought a few of our guys were well off their game. Thought Akira was missing for the tackle or clean out quite a few times so was quite surprised they took Jacobson off as he seemed more accurate and involved. Felt that was a tactical error. Neither of our hookers had a happy match either. Savea very competitive but I felt he could have imposed himself more on the ref. And poor tactical call not to kick to the corner when time nearly up.
Has Beauden's punting length and accuracy dropped off a bit? Weber gave him great service tonite so no excuses there. He and Reece were pretty good and constructive.
Anyways Bok reserve front row locks and loosies won them the match. And we shot ourselves in the foot with lineout errors and catch and pass inaccuracies. Congrats SA

Geez Foster is amazing taking charge of so many roles normally done by NZRU and other staff. The attempts to rubbish him on things he is not really involved in staggers me. Shows how little fans understand.

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@crucial said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

That Ferald article still seems to be the only news. Must have had some inside sauce overnight and everyone else is waiting on Perth to wake up.

I saw Andrew Mulligan tweet the outcome, early this morning, but he deleted the tweet, so I couldn't post it.

This is the stuff article.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126315375/all-blacks-fullback-jordie-barrett-reportedly-escapes-further-ban-for-red-card

A Sanzaar spokesman confirmed to Stuff a statement was due out from the judiciary around noon (NZT).

Awesome if true.
REALLY want to see the end of DMac at 15 for a while.
Completely unconcerned with justice.
(if it were DMac for the exact same offence I would support a ban for a few weeks)

Unbelievable - but this is the fern....

Surprised not to see much comment on the string of red-cardable offences in the weekend's internationals - especially after the NH decision not to allow Red Card replacement after 20 minutes. After the weekend I think that is an extremely poor decision.

In watching matches this is what I though I saw, and is always open to interpretation. I have not re-watched and base this on initial impressions only:
a) Two players leap up for the ball and (both?) heads hit shoulders. Red Card Argentina
b) Player sets for tackle, but opponent passes well forward and catching player starts to duck for unexpectedly imminent contact. Medium contact to chin. Red Card USA
c) Player grabs jersey of opponent burrowing into ruck legitimately, and immediately knees him in the face. Opponent goes off straight away. Yellow Card only England
d) Player gets a bit of a hospital pass and shuffles across directly into the line of an exocet missile that launches into his chin sending him flying. Not worthy of review Fiji

With all the talk about mitigation and intention, I thought the first two were yellows due to obvious mitigation. But, the sendings off impacted significantly on the matches.

The other two seemed to be intentional acts with reckless disregard for opponent safety - but on the first one the Referee used the code word 'clumsy' to influence the TMO and it was just a yellow. The commentator suggested he was stepping into the ruck - where there was another head on the ground, and he barely missed another one after the knee. The second incident was not replayed on slow-mo as far as I can recall.

I am no doubt biased in my view of what I saw, but do wonder how much card decisions depend on who the player is, which team they are from, and whether their team is playing at home. And I must question whether the TMO's are listening to the biased hometown commentary prior to the referral.

I wonder what it would take for an England captain to be red-carded at Twickenham, or the Fijian captain in front of a partisan audience?

What do Ferners think? In my eyes this demands a rethink of the 20 minute red card, as I think the referees make plenty of judgement errors because the stakes are too high - and they don't want to make a call that would see them pilloried if judged unwarranted. That tends to favour home teams.

Thought Weber much better than TJ. Lot of crucial tackles but commentators never credit him. Some inaccurate passes but quick service nonetheless

Just back from a marvellous time at the sevens. Bit of a deja vu feeling about NZ Men. The Mikkelsen/Collier combination was deadly whenever play was sent that way (far too rarely) because they showed huge energy at the contact point, Ng Shiu was great throughout, Ware was more effective than usual and showed good anticipation, Nareki showed lots of promise, and Molia was very solid throughout.

But, the others showed a continuation of previous issues that have prevented us reaching full potential. Ravouvou just could not connect with support players, and Knewstubb mishit far too many dropouts and goalkicks and was a bit hesitant on defence. Sam Dickson shows lots of endeavour, but is not as sharp and accurate as he used to be. Gregory still seems a step hesitant on defence. And Koroi - well how many 'strikes' do you let him have with his tackling technique.

Plenty of visible work-ons - but still a lack of explosiveness and outright speed. The Fijians were mesmerising with this. Tuimaba, Botitu, Nasoko, Naduva, Tuwai, Mocenacagi etc. The first three were incredibly skilful.

Well done to NZ women. Great spectacle.

Enjoyed that. Vindicates the work of the coaching staff. Hope to see their contracts extended Monday.
Thought we were dominated by Aussie loosies and Tate in first half but Dalton was much more effective after halftime and Taylor and the locks were great throughout. Akira and Ardie came into their own too. Liked the work of Samisoni after he came on and suspect he adds to scrum power. Enjoyed the 58m kick on a quiet night for DMAC. Surprising Aussie did not target him with high kicks. Well controlled Mounga.
Much better spectacle this week.

@canefan but he didn't show near as much as Warbrick did in the trial matches. I think they have added the right guy.

Would prefer to see Jordie as a 12 longer term. Thought he was a bit indecisive at times today but still great impact. Just watched most of game then read posts here. Mystified by the excessive negativity about some players and blinkers on others. My upset if I supported Canes would be at Mafileo who showed distinct lack of energy when most needed. He should have protected his 9 better for the clearance and ambled through the last few minutes. I felt the game was won when Barrett called correctly on the toss.
Blackwell had a huge workrate throughout which complements some of the more individual stuff elsewhere. Campbell was much better than Hall too. Thought Whitelock and Bridge both went well.

@Bovidae I think Roe is a better option than the rest. Happy with Christie or Drummond though if no room for an 'apprentice'

What about George Dyer for Moli? Would like to see Mitch Jacobson Kapeli and Tikoilosome in the mix. Just maybe Dawai.

That is awful. Top player and person, so sad!

That was much closer than I expected given the experience difference. Think I saw the next All Black 10 for the first time today. Parata just oozes class. Hope to see him at super level next year. Hotham looks a tremendous prospect too. Renton and Tuungafasi made the difference in the forwards. Plenty of pluses for both teams I guess. Lasaqa and Kumeroa looked promising for BOP and Carter is a live wire.

@bovidae agreed on those things. Naholo missed tackle badly for Waaka try. Thought game was won then for Waikato but some bad decisions by F Smith and the loss of Roe's cool tactical head cost them. Mcwhannell was great but whole tight five were very effective.

Poor tactics by Waikato in second half earned that loss. With tight five superiority trying to play for position would have made much better sense. Ratima was a bit sloppy again so continuity game did not work. Well done Perofeta and Potroz.

@steven-harris by December they might even announce someone not on that list...

Taranaki exploited the sun very well. Hoisted several kicks directly into it and caused errors. Thought it was a 12 to 15 point wind so I expect Taranaki will be very disappointed despite fantastic goalkicking from Perofeta. Waikato locks and hooker were very prominent and Waaka and Wrampling look dangerous. Best I have seen Kini Naholo play.

@mn5 and Trent Boswell-Wakefield - another yesteryear memory

@bovidae thanks. Hoping to make it... If I can walk tomorrow. Managed a calf injury through interclub tennis tonight and am feeling it now. Thought Hugh Nankivell might have got a run.
I am not a fan of tauranga domain as a rugby venue. That price might be par. Parking nearby is a nightmare with roadworks and cones galore.

@bovidae geez what is going on with the loosies??