Crusaders v Hurricanes
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@billy-tell what happens if you stand on the touchline with the ball?
I'm intrigued this seems a new occurrence to you though! Is Riccitelli the only one that does it? I wonder if the crusaders hooker was also doing it...
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@bones said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@billy-tell what happens if you stand on the touchline with the ball?
I'm intrigued this seems a new occurrence to you though! Is Riccitelli the only one that does it? I wonder if the crusaders hooker was also doing it...
Not a new occurrence no. It's de rigueur with every hooker. I've no doubt Taylor did it too. Not that I was trying to single our RR (who was nevertheless fairl diabolical), but I remember Grant Fox having a try ruled out for the hooker having his foot in the field of the play.
Since you ask, if you stand on the touchline with the ball, you are in touch.
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@akan004 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
I don't see why the referees have to always agree with the TMO's explanation.
The ball clearly went forward. The hands did not clearly go back.
Once upon a time that was called a forward pass.
TMOs now seem to have a different book of laws?
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@steven-harris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@yeetyaah problem is not Laumape ..the forwards Ardie aside are just not getting over the gain line
IWL made some yards.
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@pakman said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@akan004 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
I don't see why the referees have to always agree with the TMO's explanation.
The ball clearly went forward. The hands did not clearly go back.
Once upon a time that was called a knock on.
TMOs now seem to have a different book of laws?
It was Pickerill, who is so average as a ref, and now seems to aspire to be like Skeen as a TMO.
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@chris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@canes4life said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris there seems to be one twit in the crowd.
There is in every crowd I have been to the cake tin
Excuse me, I have not been to a Hurricanes game in the Cake Tin for a couple of years now!
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@dan54 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@stargazer I go along with Flanders getting on at 8, but not sure what we do at 6, Prinsep to me is a good journeyman mitre 10 cup player and not a lot more. If I had to pick I would try and work Kirifi in just because he is from the region. I not into us using journeyman from outside!
Kirifi is from Taranaki so he can bugger off to the Chiefs.
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@winger said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
I agree with other comments about Flanders.
Thats a surprise. But I would like to see him at 6. To replace Prinsep who was poor. Unless say Fifita starts at 6
The type of game they are asking Fifita to play is miles away from the wide ranging style of play where he scored a good number of tries out wide when he was first selected under Chris Boyd's stewardship (for the Lions and the Hurricanes). They have since tried to turn him into more of a battering ram hit it up one or two off the ruck ball carrier where he is only moderately successful compared to what he used to be.
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@higgins said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@canes4life said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris there seems to be one twit in the crowd.
There is in every crowd I have been to the cake tin
Excuse me, I have not been to a Hurricanes game in the Cake Tin for a couple of years now!
Then it was you I was there 3 years ago
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@canes4life said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@nepia it shouldn’t matter about province though, I don’t give two shits where a player comes from. If he’s good enough to wear the jersey then he should be selected.
The reason the Crusaders are so good is they scout the whole country for talent and pick accordingly.
The Canes need to look outside the region, identify areas where they need to improve (obvious example being the tight five) and develop players from there. Whether they are from HB, Wellington, Ta$man, Otago - if the player fits then so be it.
Blackwell is a Wellington player and I’m 100% agreeing that he should be no where near this level.
Just sucks that our coaches are pathetic and can’t spot the difference between an NPC level player and a Super Rugby player.
If that’s the case put down your sword and shield and leave the horse in the sheds whenever we’re ranting about good enough to wear the jersey Magpies players not making the Canes and come join in. Instead of the opposite.
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@dan54 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@stargazer I go along with Flanders getting on at 8, but not sure what we do at 6, Prinsep to me is a good journeyman mitre 10 cup player and not a lot more. If I had to pick I would try and work Kirifi in just because he is from the region. I not into us using journeyman from outside!
Ardie, Flanders at 6, and Evans when he comes back or Flanders at 8 and Fifita at 6 are both better options than any involving Prinsep or Kirifi as 7 instead of Ardie.
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@higgins said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@stargazer I go along with Flanders getting on at 8, but not sure what we do at 6, Prinsep to me is a good journeyman mitre 10 cup player and not a lot more. If I had to pick I would try and work Kirifi in just because he is from the region. I not into us using journeyman from outside!
Kirifi is from Taranaki so he can bugger off to the Chiefs.
Hey I live in the Naki these days, and don't accept that it is Chiefs country, once a Cane's area always a Cane's area.
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@higgins said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@bovidae Has Ben Skeen surpassed George Ayoub in the rankings of TMOs!
I never minded Ayoub as a TMO, because he was almost always right. As a ref, nah!
It must be something about Auckland and refs/TMOs.
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@nepia the best balanced loose forward combo we can pick is 6. Flanders 7. Savea and 8. Evans. Hopefully Evans makes a return soon.
You could then have maybe Fifita and Kirifi on the bench providing impact.
Unfortunately Holland will always pick Prinsep in this scenario even though he’s obviously not upto it.
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@canes4life said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@nepia the best balanced loose forward combo we can pick is 6. Flanders 7. Savea and 8. Evans. Hopefully Evans makes a return soon.
You could then have maybe Fifita and Kirifi on the bench providing impact.
Unfortunately Holland will always pick Prinsep in this scenario even though he’s obviously not up to it.
And he can hardly drop him as he stated last season that his presence on the field was justified because he and Blackwell were part of the senior leadership group.
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@nepia said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@stargazer I go along with Flanders getting on at 8, but not sure what we do at 6, Prinsep to me is a good journeyman mitre 10 cup player and not a lot more. If I had to pick I would try and work Kirifi in just because he is from the region. I not into us using journeyman from outside!
Ardie, Flanders at 6, and Evans when he comes back or Flanders at 8 and Fifita at 6 are both better options than any involving Prinsep or Kirifi as 7 instead of Ardie.
Fifita provides a good attaching (and line-out) option.
But until these incompetent, third rate coaches stop selecting rubbish like Blackwell and Prinsep the team will continue to struggle against a in form team. And the longer this crap goes on the harder and longer the team will take to recover when the fool coaches finally go. Even the Hammer wasn't this bad.
Although the Blues seem to have recovered from poor coaching fairly quickly. But it needs changes at the very top and then good coaches and a good team will follow
Maybe the Blues Ak coaches (both ex Canes) would be worth a look. But Ive lost all hope with this lot. They can't see whats obvious. For example Prinsep was playing bad even for his standards in this game but they keep him on almost until the end. He should have been pulled at HT
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@billy-tell said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@bones said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@billy-tell what happens if you stand on the touchline with the ball?
I'm intrigued this seems a new occurrence to you though! Is Riccitelli the only one that does it? I wonder if the crusaders hooker was also doing it...
Not a new occurrence no. It's de rigueur with every hooker. I've no doubt Taylor did it too. Not that I was trying to single our RR (who was nevertheless fairl diabolical), but I remember Grant Fox having a try ruled out for the hooker having his foot in the field of the play.
Since you ask, if you stand on the touchline with the ball, you are in touch.
Certainly, back in the day when I played, you had to stand behind the touchline to throw the ball in. Mind you, that was in the days when the wings threw the ball in.
I dunno why they would have changed the rule to allow the hooker to stand a bit closer - seems a bit of a pointless and untidy change.
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@chris-b said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@billy-tell said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@bones said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@billy-tell what happens if you stand on the touchline with the ball?
I'm intrigued this seems a new occurrence to you though! Is Riccitelli the only one that does it? I wonder if the crusaders hooker was also doing it...
Not a new occurrence no. It's de rigueur with every hooker. I've no doubt Taylor did it too. Not that I was trying to single our RR (who was nevertheless fairl diabolical), but I remember Grant Fox having a try ruled out for the hooker having his foot in the field of the play.
Since you ask, if you stand on the touchline with the ball, you are in touch.
Certainly, back in the day when I played, you had to stand behind the touchline to throw the ball in. Mind you, that was in the days when the wings threw the ball in.
I dunno why they would have changed the rule to allow the hooker to stand a bit closer - seems a bit of a pointless and untidy change.
I’m not sure it has changed, but I guess they looked at the likes of Harris, Coleman, Aumua and decided it would decrease the number of not straight scrums if they make it a little bit easier for them to do their core job.
