Crusaders v Hurricanes
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Shambolic 2nd quarter from the Hurricanes. Played okay in the other three, but lack the players to be competitive against top teams this year. The problem has been the recruitment policy for the past five or six years, not enough ambition or forward-thinking. Ardie must play 7, Flanders should start. But the real problem is the roster.
Congratulations to the Crusaders, again. I thought Mo'unga controlled the game well.
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@gt12 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
I know it is affected by the YC, but one key issue - that can be addressed - was a lack of balance in the loosies and Ardie not being as effective at 8. Ardie made all of 5 tackles today and was OK with the ball (he got 23 metres and beat three defenders) but got no help. Prinsep made 11 tackles and ran for 2 metres - that’s not enough from a 6 at this level and in his short stint Flanders was busy on both sides of the ball.
Ardie ran 50-60m down the field in one of his runs. Does that mean he had a sh*tload of carries that made negative metres to bring it back to 23m?
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@toddy said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@gt12 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
I know it is affected by the YC, but one key issue - that can be addressed - was a lack of balance in the loosies and Ardie not being as effective at 8. Ardie made all of 5 tackles today and was OK with the ball (he got 23 metres and beat three defenders) but got no help. Prinsep made 11 tackles and ran for 2 metres - that’s not enough from a 6 at this level and in his short stint Flanders was busy on both sides of the ball.
Ardie ran 50-60m down the field in one of his runs. Does that mean he had a sh*tload of carries that made negative metres to bring it back to 23m?
Possibly:
https://www.espn.com/rugby/playerstats?gameId=593054&league=289271
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Blackadder was really good. Like Tom Robinson, I wonder the way he plays makes it inevitable he'll get injured at some stage. Cullen Grace, Christie, and Blackadder are going to be a formidable force in the years to come. But did you see Grace run into Ardie and Ardie gave him a bit of a rough up? The old bull just saying, "don't get ahead of yourself young fella".
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@stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
JGB always looks like he is carrying a spare tire. Hooker masquerading as a 10.
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@billy-tell what happens if you stand on the touchline with the ball?
I'm intrigued this seems a new occurrence to you though! Is Riccitelli the only one that does it? I wonder if the crusaders hooker was also doing it...
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@bones said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@billy-tell what happens if you stand on the touchline with the ball?
I'm intrigued this seems a new occurrence to you though! Is Riccitelli the only one that does it? I wonder if the crusaders hooker was also doing it...
Not a new occurrence no. It's de rigueur with every hooker. I've no doubt Taylor did it too. Not that I was trying to single our RR (who was nevertheless fairl diabolical), but I remember Grant Fox having a try ruled out for the hooker having his foot in the field of the play.
Since you ask, if you stand on the touchline with the ball, you are in touch.
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@akan004 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
I don't see why the referees have to always agree with the TMO's explanation.
The ball clearly went forward. The hands did not clearly go back.
Once upon a time that was called a forward pass.
TMOs now seem to have a different book of laws?
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@steven-harris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@yeetyaah problem is not Laumape ..the forwards Ardie aside are just not getting over the gain line
IWL made some yards.
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@pakman said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@akan004 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
I don't see why the referees have to always agree with the TMO's explanation.
The ball clearly went forward. The hands did not clearly go back.
Once upon a time that was called a knock on.
TMOs now seem to have a different book of laws?
It was Pickerill, who is so average as a ref, and now seems to aspire to be like Skeen as a TMO.
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@chris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@canes4life said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris there seems to be one twit in the crowd.
There is in every crowd I have been to the cake tin
Excuse me, I have not been to a Hurricanes game in the Cake Tin for a couple of years now!
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@dan54 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@stargazer I go along with Flanders getting on at 8, but not sure what we do at 6, Prinsep to me is a good journeyman mitre 10 cup player and not a lot more. If I had to pick I would try and work Kirifi in just because he is from the region. I not into us using journeyman from outside!
Kirifi is from Taranaki so he can bugger off to the Chiefs.
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@winger said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
I agree with other comments about Flanders.
Thats a surprise. But I would like to see him at 6. To replace Prinsep who was poor. Unless say Fifita starts at 6
The type of game they are asking Fifita to play is miles away from the wide ranging style of play where he scored a good number of tries out wide when he was first selected under Chris Boyd's stewardship (for the Lions and the Hurricanes). They have since tried to turn him into more of a battering ram hit it up one or two off the ruck ball carrier where he is only moderately successful compared to what he used to be.
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@higgins said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@canes4life said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris there seems to be one twit in the crowd.
There is in every crowd I have been to the cake tin
Excuse me, I have not been to a Hurricanes game in the Cake Tin for a couple of years now!
Then it was you I was there 3 years ago
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@canes4life said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@nepia it shouldn’t matter about province though, I don’t give two shits where a player comes from. If he’s good enough to wear the jersey then he should be selected.
The reason the Crusaders are so good is they scout the whole country for talent and pick accordingly.
The Canes need to look outside the region, identify areas where they need to improve (obvious example being the tight five) and develop players from there. Whether they are from HB, Wellington, Ta$man, Otago - if the player fits then so be it.
Blackwell is a Wellington player and I’m 100% agreeing that he should be no where near this level.
Just sucks that our coaches are pathetic and can’t spot the difference between an NPC level player and a Super Rugby player.
If that’s the case put down your sword and shield and leave the horse in the sheds whenever we’re ranting about good enough to wear the jersey Magpies players not making the Canes and come join in. Instead of the opposite.
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@dan54 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@stargazer I go along with Flanders getting on at 8, but not sure what we do at 6, Prinsep to me is a good journeyman mitre 10 cup player and not a lot more. If I had to pick I would try and work Kirifi in just because he is from the region. I not into us using journeyman from outside!
Ardie, Flanders at 6, and Evans when he comes back or Flanders at 8 and Fifita at 6 are both better options than any involving Prinsep or Kirifi as 7 instead of Ardie.
