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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @Jaguares4real I think we are not showing too Much and working through combos and small movements in the direction we want to play
    A few world cups ago we smashed everyone leading up to the WC and didn’t get the job done at WC time
    Maybe we have learnt from that and are slowly building

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    @Stargazer he really was.

    Playing Richie means we move our best 10 and best fullback. Not smart.

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    @Kirwan I think BB would have struggled at 10 tonight.

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @Machpants dude that's my delusional exhibit A propping up my powder dry glimmer of hope!

    We never seem to look to "earn" yards or field position, an all black strength historically. Very little forward play as I can see. All seems vulnerable to a psycho defence and a decent kicking five eight

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    BFA played pretty well, but as previously mentioned, he isn't fast enough for a winger anymore. Read and SBW are well past their use-by dates, but can't be dropped, so the rest of the team selection needs to make up for that.
    In that we never know which pair of kicking boots BB is gonna put on each game, I'd be more comfy if RM did that duty. Bit gutted for BBBR. Huge blow if he's out.

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    @Tim said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    There's no way we'll beat three rush defence teams in a row at the world cup.

    Nail hit on the head, I am afraid.

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    @Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Kirwan I think BB would have struggled at 10 tonight.

    He’s handled this sort of pressure before, and he was our best player today, so I don’t accept that.

    Difference too in SR where he doesn’t get the front foot ball that Richie is used to. A whiff of being a flat track bully about him.

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    @Kirwan said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Kirwan I think BB would have struggled at 10 tonight.

    He’s handled this sort of pressure before, and he was our best player today, so I don’t accept that.

    Difference too in SR where he doesn’t get the front foot ball that Richie is used to. A whiff of being a flat track bully about him.

    BB was our best player today playing at fullback. That doesn't mean he would have played well at 10, tonight.

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    Mounga was very good in the second half. I think that was just a consequence of him having more space then anything he did to change it.

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    @Stargazer he spent a lot of time at ten positionally in the second half.

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    @Kirwan Especially early on when we turned the tide.

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    @Machpants Or other Teams have developed really professional programs and this is the new reality for NZ rugby?

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    Fix up dropped passes and have Richie kicking goals - problems fixed.

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    @hydro11 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    Mounga was very good in the second half. I think that was just a consequence of him having more space then anything he did to change it.

    When we started going forward...

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    If Ben Smith is too slow and out of form at wing, then he's too slow and out of form at fullback. Personally, I don't think he's either, but he can't be quick at fullback and slow at wing.

    I prefer Beauden at fullback, because he has space.

    The issues in that game were

    1. how much ball we dropped cold
    2. a loose forward trio that add nothing in attack
    3. an inability to deal with the high ball

    I'm not sure 1) and 3) can be fixed. Adding Ardie Surveyor helps with 2), but only if they are prepared to try something new.

    I'm another who is strongly reminded of 1991.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    I have a cat now and I will kick it.

    Probably a fair reflection on the overall game. Should have won it though.

    Controversial opinion. Ardie should be 8 instead of Read. Not going to happen obviously but he was very ordinary.

    If Read makes the starting team, now it is as a 6. If not he can be the backup 8. Ardie is the star at the back of the scrum now.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by Stargazer
    #848

    @Kirwan Yeah, and he got way more space in the second half, too, so it was a lot easier for him at 10 than for RM in the first half.

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    Rebound
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    @gt12 which is a fucking penalty

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    The most crucial thing from this game is BBBR's injury. I don't think we will win the Rwc without him.

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    @98blueandgold said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Machpants Or other Teams have developed really professional programs and this is the new reality for NZ rugby?

    I don't think SA have TBH, they're in a world of hurt. Ireland, yes, SA I dunno how they dragged themselves up from Albany levels of awful - you've gotta give Rassie credit tho

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