TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98)
-
@98blueandgold spot on
-
@Siam said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Hands up those of you able to remember 1991?
A stellar team for the ages 4 years ago still packed with a spine of greats, a little bit rusty leading into it but, it'll be alright in October, " just look at the talent and experience "...
I don't get how our gameplans of the last 18 months or so, gives us the best chance of winning on any given day.
Are we always going to battle and out-cute " balls to the wall" psycho rush defences or are we one day going to go up the guts for 5 phases, once, in a game?
Greatest powder dry ruse in the history of professional sport? 🤨
Lots of 1991 echos.
-
-
@Kirwan said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Stargazer difference is that BB has delivered against sides like SA at ten. Three months before a WC is not time to develop a ten who’s not ready yet.
Yes, but BB has also had a lot more games in his career. BB is the best fullback we have. Full stop. It definitely isn't Jordie, and BFA has been quite disappointing thus far, too.
I agree that 3 months before a RWC is short, but we have no better option than RM-BB as a 10-15 combo.
And RM wasn't half as bad as some people are saying.
-
@Kirwan Mo'unga's had it easy at SR level where he's always playing on the front foot. He'll take a good lesson out of tonight but needs to learn quickly on how to play when his forwards are going backwards. So far he just looks like a flat track bully like his mate George Bridge who needs to learn some defence.
-
@Jaguares4real I think we are not showing too Much and working through combos and small movements in the direction we want to play
A few world cups ago we smashed everyone leading up to the WC and didn’t get the job done at WC time
Maybe we have learnt from that and are slowly building -
@Stargazer he really was.
Playing Richie means we move our best 10 and best fullback. Not smart.
-
-
@Machpants dude that's my delusional exhibit A propping up my powder dry glimmer of hope!
We never seem to look to "earn" yards or field position, an all black strength historically. Very little forward play as I can see. All seems vulnerable to a psycho defence and a decent kicking five eight
-
BFA played pretty well, but as previously mentioned, he isn't fast enough for a winger anymore. Read and SBW are well past their use-by dates, but can't be dropped, so the rest of the team selection needs to make up for that.
In that we never know which pair of kicking boots BB is gonna put on each game, I'd be more comfy if RM did that duty. Bit gutted for BBBR. Huge blow if he's out. -
@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Kirwan I think BB would have struggled at 10 tonight.
He’s handled this sort of pressure before, and he was our best player today, so I don’t accept that.
Difference too in SR where he doesn’t get the front foot ball that Richie is used to. A whiff of being a flat track bully about him.
-
@Kirwan said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Kirwan I think BB would have struggled at 10 tonight.
He’s handled this sort of pressure before, and he was our best player today, so I don’t accept that.
Difference too in SR where he doesn’t get the front foot ball that Richie is used to. A whiff of being a flat track bully about him.
BB was our best player today playing at fullback. That doesn't mean he would have played well at 10, tonight.
-
-
@Stargazer he spent a lot of time at ten positionally in the second half.
-
@Machpants Or other Teams have developed really professional programs and this is the new reality for NZ rugby?
-
@hydro11 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Mounga was very good in the second half. I think that was just a consequence of him having more space then anything he did to change it.
When we started going forward...
-
If Ben Smith is too slow and out of form at wing, then he's too slow and out of form at fullback. Personally, I don't think he's either, but he can't be quick at fullback and slow at wing.
I prefer Beauden at fullback, because he has space.
The issues in that game were
- how much ball we dropped cold
- a loose forward trio that add nothing in attack
- an inability to deal with the high ball
I'm not sure 1) and 3) can be fixed. Adding Ardie Surveyor helps with 2), but only if they are prepared to try something new.
I'm another who is strongly reminded of 1991.
