Springboks V All Blacks
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@bovidae said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Springboks V All Blacks:
During the game I commented that De Klerk was an annoying little shit, which is the highest form of praise possible for a halfback.
I was hoping an AB would smash him in a tackle whenever he had the ball. Call that a back-handed compliment.
Isn't he the defence coach?
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@booboo said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@gt12 said in Springboks V All Blacks:
But a totally catchable one - not a fast spiral, just an inside ball at his shoulder (a little behind him). He was set for it and should have caught it - it’s at the 70 minute mark, go check it.
Disagree. Next to impossible to catch IMO
Disagree. Totally catchable.
His hands let him down last weekend and that was another example.
Love his grunt and physicality work though.
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@kiwimurph said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@kiwiinmelb we won the week before v Argie. We had to fly from Argie and play at altitude. We only beat Boks by 1 last year in Cape Town. I dont think there's reason to go overboard on the worry.
But last year wasn't a target game. It was the end of season dead rubber.
Hansen specifically said that this game was a practice for two hard games at RWC. We were going to play the best team available and treat it as a RWC final. If we play like that in a RWC we won't be champions.
I too am reminded of a game we won 6-3 against Oz.
Last game against them many felt we only lost because we gifted them 14 points. Well that excuse doesn't wash in this one.
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@kiwimurph said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@kiwiinmelb we won the week before v Argie. We had to fly from Argie and play at altitude. We only beat Boks by 1 last year in Cape Town. I dont think there's reason to go overboard on the worry.
And the saffas were totally up for it after breaking through in Wellington. We didn't play our best but we withstood everything they threw at us and won. You could see how much it meant from the looks of the players on both sides
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@chester-draws so was a dead rubber RWC practice game....
Bollox that. The Boks beat us, at home, the last time they played us. This wasnt remotely a dead rubber from the AB point if view.
Once again, immediately after the game people forget what was said before it. The build up was about how important it was. It wasn't meant to be practice, but a dress rehearsal. The team selected didn't have any players rotated in for experience as a result.
The ABs set out to play their best game. They failed badly to do that.
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@chester-draws said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@chester-draws so was a dead rubber RWC practice game....
Bollox that. The Boks beat us, at home, the last time they played us. This wasnt remotely a dead rubber from the AB point if view.
Once again, immediately after the game people forget what was said before it. The build up was about how important it was. It wasn't meant to be practice, but a dress rehearsal. The team selected didn't have any players rotated in for experience as a result.
The ABs set out to play their best game. They failed badly to do that.
When we play our best game no one can beat us. This was all about trying to find a way to win against a quality committed opponent when you aren't at 100. That was a knockout intensity match
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@rapido said in Springboks V All Blacks:
the Saffa English language commentators are good quality - excellent and unbiased, non-whiney
I think they are probably the best. Stransky is excellent.
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@chester-draws chill out bro, just winding you up.
Not like I called it a friendly!
As an aside, ave score v SA in SA since 1995 is 23-28
22-28 in last 15 years
22-30 in since 2000 -
@canefan Not sure about this any more. I think our forward pack can get better. Franks has a hundred. Time for the pasture. We have enough decent props to supplant him. We still don’t have a settled number 6. Sam Cane is often injured and has been a warrior but for how much longer. Ardie can take his place but would like to see a more physical presence at six. Barret hasn’t done anything bad but he is someone who can play lock and 6 but not really standing out. We need a lock who is not a utility. I think a utility who can play 8 and 6 would be better. Obviously Lurch is our 2nd lock. In the backs SBW was not as bad as some indicated. Some of his smothering tackles were excellent. Offensively he did not do much. Maybe BB needs to take of the line more so the defensives don’t drift. So are we settled in the midfield. ALB and Goodhue maybe the answer and hopefully this will be assessed up north. Anyway a bit of cab in me so prepared for the fuck you dont know what you are talking about.
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@broughie said in Springboks V All Blacks:
Anyway a bit of cab in me so prepared for the fuck you dont know what you are talking about.
Drunk posting is the best posting! You had me at 'Cane always injured'... he's only been our starter since McAWESOME retired. Probably got a bit longer before he goes out to pasture - and physically just a specimen. Hits harder than any other bastard out there, I"m a big fan.
Also, fuck yeah, post drunk fella. It's awesome fun
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@broughie said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@nzzp Damn, didn’t even get passed the second sentence. Will have to shorten my posts. Nice one NZZP.
I agree with youa bout a 6 though. A hard hitting ball running 6 who can win lineouts - is it really that hard? Fark we miss Jerome and Jerry, they were just specimens.
After a few Shiraz, I have wondered about Cane to 6 at times. he has all the physical attributes except height. Read at 8 covers nicely, but we'd be forced to lift tall timber like Ardie at 7 if we were to make something like that work.
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@nzzp Cane is 1cm taller than Ardie, which is saying something
but agree, maybe lok at him at 6 and either start Ardie or bring back Todd.Ardie won us a coupl eof lineouts in BA last week.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks V All Blacks:
Ardie won us a coupl eof lineouts in BA last week.
I could only think that this could be us:
(edited for clarity)
The long and short of it: England rugby and dwarf-throwing do not mix | Robert Kitson
Robert Kitson: A few drinks, a few dwarves, Martin Johnson's World Cup squad … What could possibly go wrong?
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@chester-draws said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@kiwimurph said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@kiwiinmelb we won the week before v Argie. We had to fly from Argie and play at altitude. We only beat Boks by 1 last year in Cape Town. I dont think there's reason to go overboard on the worry.
But last year wasn't a target game. It was the end of season dead rubber.
Hansen specifically said that this game was a practice for two hard games at RWC. We were going to play the best team available and treat it as a RWC final. If we play like that in a RWC we won't be champions.
I too am reminded of a game we won 6-3 against Oz.
Last game against them many felt we only lost because we gifted them 14 points. Well that excuse doesn't wash in this one.
So what do you expect in a must win game?
The opposition to just roll over due to our awesomeness? Nup
A win no matter how? Yup
We got the job done. We expect the ABs to be 20 points better, but the opposition want to win too.
End of the day if we score more points than them we win. I'll take that in a World Cup Final.
This in no means excuses the sub-par performance, but results wise desired outcome was achieved.
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@nzzp said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@broughie said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@nzzp Damn, didn’t even get passed the second sentence. Will have to shorten my posts. Nice one NZZP.
I agree with youa bout a 6 though. A hard hitting ball running 6 who can win lineouts - is it really that hard? Fark we miss Jerome and Jerry, they were just specimens.
After a few Shiraz, I have wondered about Cane to 6 at times. he has all the physical attributes except height. Read at 8 covers nicely, but we'd be forced to lift tall timber like Ardie at 7 if we were to make something like that work.
Scott Barrett an option in a Alan Whetton kinda way? Just musing after his last 20 mins
Lineouts, handy round the field, big moto4, some but not a vast drop off in physicality?
Possibly. We'd have to find a 3rd lock though because, for all his foibles, SB has performed pretty well in tests so far, and we defo need a handy 3rd lock for the next 12 months.
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I thought the heat and the altitude got to them early on. The looked gassed at the 25 minute mark.
I don't think we need to panic yet, we were missing half our first choice forwards including the irreplaceable BBBR and it's becoming clear now that SBW and Crotty are no longer our starting midfielders. So there's a heap of improvement left.
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@chester-draws said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@kiwimurph said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@kiwiinmelb we won the week before v Argie. We had to fly from Argie and play at altitude. We only beat Boks by 1 last year in Cape Town. I dont think there's reason to go overboard on the worry.
But last year wasn't a target game. It was the end of season dead rubber.
Hansen specifically said that this game was a practice for two hard games at RWC. We were going to play the best team available and treat it as a RWC final. If we play like that in a RWC we won't be champions.
I too am reminded of a game we won 6-3 against Oz.
Last game against them many felt we only lost because we gifted them 14 points. Well that excuse doesn't wash in this one.
That doesn’t make sense. Look at the 2011 RWC final. We didn’t play well but ultimately did enough to win the test match. 8-7 is all that really matters.
So if last night was some sort of RWC dress rehearsal then mission accomplished because no matter how we got the win - we got it. Hold the cup up boys and do the lap of honour.
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