Springboks V All Blacks
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@nepia said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@gt12 I don't think Pat T can be blamed for that knock on really, the pass went hard straight to his shoulder.
Was that the one where crotty threw a spiral at his shoulder? Fuck this place marks according to pre-existing ideas about players
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@mariner4life said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@nepia said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@gt12 I don't think Pat T can be blamed for that knock on really, the pass went hard straight to his shoulder.
Was that the one where crotty threw a spiral at his shoulder? Fuck this place marks according to pre-existing ideas about players
Yep, it was a shit pass.
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Deadset burglary. For 70 minutes there wasn't a single All Black who was better than his opposite number. And yet we won. Fuck knows how. Belief?
We've got issues. Our defensive system has broken down. South Africa probably should have had a coupke more tries such was the ease with which we got opened in the first 3/4 of the game.
Up front we were so ordinary. S Barrett is little more than adequate, and yet still played far beyter at 6 than the starter. So that's 2 substandard players in the 8. Throw in Read having his worst test in years, Taylor the same, and Cane going off, and we got owned up front.
A Smith sucked intil the 50 minute mark, and it's little surpise to me that him getting his shit together instantly improved us. Barrett is a shit 10 and needs to go, surel even his fluffers can see that now. SBW is done. Crotty is barely hanging on. Naholo is not doing enough to justify a spot.
Go the bench! Big impact from the forwards especially, but also Mounga and ALB.
Gutting for South Africa, that won't be a pleasant video session on Tuesday. They are a bloody good team though, with a lot of gun players
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@mariner4life Stormy needs to give the Great Wayne Smith a call for some pointers
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@mariner4life the All Blacks scored 19 unanswered points in the last 20 minutes,the Boks looked gassed,the coach went to the bench and they offered nothing..!,
2 of the 3 bok tries came from straight missed tackles.
All 4 of the All Black tries came from great lead up work..
The captaincy was essential in the closing 10 minutes..he kept the team driven,every stoppage Read spoke to the team..
Given we had no Retallick,lost Goodhue before kickoff..!
Will take this win every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
The Blacks looked the more likely team with 20 to go..! -
The individual missed tackles are a killer, and a lot of them happened through 10-14. A total of 24 missed according to ESPN, with B Barrett (3), SBW (3, I think one leading to a try), Crotty (2, including one misalignment leading to a try), Ioane 2), Naholo (1).
Up front Perry had one bad miss which allowed Allende to score, while Franks, Mr T, and Whitelock also missed a couple. I’m pretty sure that Taylor missed a crucial one too. So, credit to the Boks for their strength and ball running, but many of these were just straight up misses (two that jump out are SBW and Perry).
Much of this is due to playing without the ball, but if they are going to give up the ball and territory, they need to be much more accurate on defense.
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@steven-harris said in Springboks V All Blacks:
@mariner4life the All Blacks scored 19 unanswered points in the last 20 minutes,the Boks looked gassed,the coach went to the bench and they offered nothing..!,
2 of the 3 bok tries came from straight missed tackles.
All 4 of the All Black tries came from great lead up work..
The captaincy was essential in the closing 10 minutes..he kept the team driven,every stoppage Read spoke to the team..
Given we had no Retallick,lost Goodhue before kickoff..!
Will take this win every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
The Blacks looked the more likely team with 20 to go..!Make sure it's at a convenient time though.
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Looking at that game, I think it’s clear that SBW doesn’t offer much more than Crotty - who is much better at 12 and too slow at 13. It’s probably past time to see what an ALB/Goodhue pairing looks like.
It’s also definitely worth looking at starting Dmac with Mo’unga off the bench (if they must start Barret at 10), or just bite bullet and start RM with Barrett at 15 and Dmac off the bench. If we were honest, that’s probably our best use of resources...
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@gt12 said in Springboks V All Blacks:
But a totally catchable one - not a fast spiral, just an inside ball at his shoulder (a little behind him). He was set for it and should have caught it - it’s at the 70 minute mark, go check it.
Disagree. Next to impossible to catch IMO
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Tuipulotu does have a tendency to drop a few passes, but a couple in recent tests have been either really low or high. BBBR usually catches those regardless and we hardly react to the poor pass.
Certainly Tuipulotu can be a huge weapon off the bench with his ball-running but I expect S Barrett to be the bench lock when everyone is fit and available.
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Watching replay and the Aaron Smith deliberate pass to offside defender was a terrible call.
That passing into a retreating player to milk a penalty is a slight problem in rugby but this instance the ball was actually going straight to Scott Barrett.
Referee premeditated that decision, not good.
Oh and obviously the camera work and lack of any decent replays was brought to you by Diversity and Equity Inc. Poor production from the place that used to be one of the best
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After TRC my top backline is now:
TJP
Mo'unga
Rieko
ALB
Goodhue
BFA
BeaudenA Smith
DMac (Jordie next in line)
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@siam said in Springboks V All Blacks:
Watching replay and the Aaron Smith deliberate pass to offside defender was a terrible call.
That passing into a retreating player to milk a penalty is a slight problem in rugby but this instance the ball was actually going straight to Scott Barrett.
Referee premeditated that decision, not good.
Oh and obviously the camera work and lack of any decent replays was brought to you by Diversity and Equity Inc. Poor production from the place that used to be one of the best
Huh?
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On Frizzel, he's way too raw for test footy. He needs a season of (starting!) Super rugby under his belt.
Stupid selection when we have Akira, who has proven himself against the Lions no less, playing domestic footy at home.
