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    @gunner said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @kiwimurph said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    Get the ball to Rieko in some space in the second half please.

    Rieko’s playing?

    He spent all first half chasing duff kicks.

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    @gt12 I don't think Pat T can be blamed for that knock on really, the pass went hard straight to his shoulder.

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    @nepia

    Maybe, but it’s been a continuing issue for him. I hope he can step up, because we need him to.

    I’m still wondering how we can be so bad for so much of the game - I watched the replay so it just jumps out - don’t touch the ball for 6 minutes, get ball, cross kick, don’t touch ball for six minutes (giving up penalties and 3 points), get ball, try offload in traffic on first phase (thanks SBW), don’t touch ball for six minutes, get ball, drop ball, rinse, repeat, take one chance (42 minutes), don’t touch ball for six minutes....

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    @gt12 said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @nepia

    Maybe, but it’s been a continuing issue for him. I hope he can step up, because we need him to.

    I’m still wondering how we can be so bad for so much of the game - I watched the replay so it just jumps out - don’t touch the ball for 6 minutes, get ball, cross kick, don’t touch ball for six minutes (giving up penalties and 3 points), get ball, try offload in traffic on first phase (thanks SBW), don’t touch ball for six minutes, get ball, drop ball, rinse, repeat, take one chance (42 minutes), don’t touch ball for six minutes....

    Completing my read of the whole thread looks like I was beaten to the punch by at least 3 other posters. He put in a solid effort when he came on, not sure anyone can have an issue with that.

    That explanation of the game is exactly how it should be described.

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    One of the most frustrating plays of the game was when we had little to no ball , finally get a scrum feed , ok I thought , opportunity to get settled and put some phases together ,

    ASmith passes to naholo on the blind , who kicks the ball away .

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    @nepia I agree with coms regarding that incident,was a very pass to take..but I will say if Tuipulotu can improve his handling in general I would be way more comfortable about using him.

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    @nepia said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @gt12 I don't think Pat T can be blamed for that knock on really, the pass went hard straight to his shoulder.

    Was that the one where crotty threw a spiral at his shoulder? Fuck this place marks according to pre-existing ideas about players

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    @mariner4life said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @nepia said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @gt12 I don't think Pat T can be blamed for that knock on really, the pass went hard straight to his shoulder.

    Was that the one where crotty threw a spiral at his shoulder? Fuck this place marks according to pre-existing ideas about players

    Yep, it was a shit pass.

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    Deadset burglary. For 70 minutes there wasn't a single All Black who was better than his opposite number. And yet we won. Fuck knows how. Belief?

    We've got issues. Our defensive system has broken down. South Africa probably should have had a coupke more tries such was the ease with which we got opened in the first 3/4 of the game.

    Up front we were so ordinary. S Barrett is little more than adequate, and yet still played far beyter at 6 than the starter. So that's 2 substandard players in the 8. Throw in Read having his worst test in years, Taylor the same, and Cane going off, and we got owned up front.

    A Smith sucked intil the 50 minute mark, and it's little surpise to me that him getting his shit together instantly improved us. Barrett is a shit 10 and needs to go, surel even his fluffers can see that now. SBW is done. Crotty is barely hanging on. Naholo is not doing enough to justify a spot.

    Go the bench! Big impact from the forwards especially, but also Mounga and ALB.

    Gutting for South Africa, that won't be a pleasant video session on Tuesday. They are a bloody good team though, with a lot of gun players

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    @nepia

    But a totally catchable one - not a fast spiral, just an inside ball at his shoulder (a little behind him). He was set for it and should have caught it - it’s at the 70 minute mark, go check it.

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    @mariner4life Stormy needs to give the Great Wayne Smith a call for some pointers

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    @mariner4life the All Blacks scored 19 unanswered points in the last 20 minutes,the Boks looked gassed,the coach went to the bench and they offered nothing..!,
    2 of the 3 bok tries came from straight missed tackles.
    All 4 of the All Black tries came from great lead up work..
    The captaincy was essential in the closing 10 minutes..he kept the team driven,every stoppage Read spoke to the team..
    Given we had no Retallick,lost Goodhue before kickoff..!
    Will take this win every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
    The Blacks looked the more likely team with 20 to go..!

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    The individual missed tackles are a killer, and a lot of them happened through 10-14. A total of 24 missed according to ESPN, with B Barrett (3), SBW (3, I think one leading to a try), Crotty (2, including one misalignment leading to a try), Ioane 2), Naholo (1).

    Up front Perry had one bad miss which allowed Allende to score, while Franks, Mr T, and Whitelock also missed a couple. I’m pretty sure that Taylor missed a crucial one too. So, credit to the Boks for their strength and ball running, but many of these were just straight up misses (two that jump out are SBW and Perry).

    Much of this is due to playing without the ball, but if they are going to give up the ball and territory, they need to be much more accurate on defense.

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    @steven-harris said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @mariner4life the All Blacks scored 19 unanswered points in the last 20 minutes,the Boks looked gassed,the coach went to the bench and they offered nothing..!,
    2 of the 3 bok tries came from straight missed tackles.
    All 4 of the All Black tries came from great lead up work..
    The captaincy was essential in the closing 10 minutes..he kept the team driven,every stoppage Read spoke to the team..
    Given we had no Retallick,lost Goodhue before kickoff..!
    Will take this win every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
    The Blacks looked the more likely team with 20 to go..!

    Make sure it's at a convenient time though.

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    Looking at that game, I think it’s clear that SBW doesn’t offer much more than Crotty - who is much better at 12 and too slow at 13. It’s probably past time to see what an ALB/Goodhue pairing looks like.

    It’s also definitely worth looking at starting Dmac with Mo’unga off the bench (if they must start Barret at 10), or just bite bullet and start RM with Barrett at 15 and Dmac off the bench. If we were honest, that’s probably our best use of resources...

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    @gt12 said in Springboks V All Blacks:

    @nepia

    But a totally catchable one - not a fast spiral, just an inside ball at his shoulder (a little behind him). He was set for it and should have caught it - it’s at the 70 minute mark, go check it.

    Disagree. Next to impossible to catch IMO

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    @booboo

    I’m happy to disagree, and it’s only a small problem with his game that I’d like to see him work on. Apart from that, I thought he did well, and I hope he’ll keep developing.

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    Man we got outplayed for almost all of that match. 60 minutes and CF jnr says we are dead and buried. Lucky rugby is an 80 minute game. Sorry SA but

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    Tuipulotu does have a tendency to drop a few passes, but a couple in recent tests have been either really low or high. BBBR usually catches those regardless and we hardly react to the poor pass.

    Certainly Tuipulotu can be a huge weapon off the bench with his ball-running but I expect S Barrett to be the bench lock when everyone is fit and available.

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  • SiamS Offline
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    Watching replay and the Aaron Smith deliberate pass to offside defender was a terrible call.

    That passing into a retreating player to milk a penalty is a slight problem in rugby but this instance the ball was actually going straight to Scott Barrett.

    Referee premeditated that decision, not good.

    Oh and obviously the camera work and lack of any decent replays was brought to you by Diversity and Equity Inc. Poor production from the place that used to be one of the best

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