Michael Jones
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@no-quarter said in Michael Jones:
Never saw Jones play live but there's no doubt in my mind McCaw was the superior player
I didn’t watch the game, but I know what happened.... 😎
Always been my favourite Fern truism.
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@mn5 said in Michael Jones:
I guess it depends if you want to be bored by stories of our lord or by gliding.
I’d go for MJ probably.
as what though - best flanker, or best rugby player? Not necessarily the same thing ...
I'd go for McCaw. Winning us a RWC after all those years with a broken foot - that's some top tier legend making right there. And the longevity; 148 tests in the toughest physical position on the field is just insane.
But I reckon peak Jones was a far better athlete, and probably a better 7 for a while. But if those are the criteria, we're dropping Jonah and playing Rupeni in our all time world XV
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@bovidae said in Michael Jones:
Hart made that great comment about Jones having the skill set to be a centre. Watch some of the footage from the 1987 RWC and you will understand why.
Que another Messam comparison. It should’ve happened Chiefs and ABs 😎
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@kirwan said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
who is on the "AB Mt Rushmore" could be a good thread
Oh,oh,oh. Shit fight.
Actually both of these guys probably make it with Meads and Carter.
I've missed out heaps.
the old fuckers here will come for us hard
I reckon only Richie and Meads are locked in, everyone else will be a fucking shitfight.
Carter and Jones are easily locked in too. Same with Lomu.
Presume you mean Dan and not Mark ? Seems a pertinent question in a thread about Michael Jones
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@mn5 said in Michael Jones:
@kirwan said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
who is on the "AB Mt Rushmore" could be a good thread
Oh,oh,oh. Shit fight.
Actually both of these guys probably make it with Meads and Carter.
I've missed out heaps.
the old fuckers here will come for us hard
I reckon only Richie and Meads are locked in, everyone else will be a fucking shitfight.
Carter and Jones are easily locked in too. Same with Lomu.
Presume you mean Dan and not Mark ? Seems a pertinent question in a thread about Michael Jones
Even on a Mt Rushmore of only number sevens I doubt that Mark's face would be carved in stone. He does have a street named after him in Manukau though.
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@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mn5 said in Michael Jones:
@kirwan said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
who is on the "AB Mt Rushmore" could be a good thread
Oh,oh,oh. Shit fight.
Actually both of these guys probably make it with Meads and Carter.
I've missed out heaps.
the old fuckers here will come for us hard
I reckon only Richie and Meads are locked in, everyone else will be a fucking shitfight.
Carter and Jones are easily locked in too. Same with Lomu.
Presume you mean Dan and not Mark ? Seems a pertinent question in a thread about Michael Jones
Even on a Mt Rushmore of only number sevens I doubt that Mark's face would be carved in stone. He does have a street named after him in Manukau though.
So, which four flankers are above him?
I can think of one, once arguable and then I struggled
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@nzzp said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mn5 said in Michael Jones:
@kirwan said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
who is on the "AB Mt Rushmore" could be a good thread
Oh,oh,oh. Shit fight.
Actually both of these guys probably make it with Meads and Carter.
I've missed out heaps.
the old fuckers here will come for us hard
I reckon only Richie and Meads are locked in, everyone else will be a fucking shitfight.
Carter and Jones are easily locked in too. Same with Lomu.
Presume you mean Dan and not Mark ? Seems a pertinent question in a thread about Michael Jones
Even on a Mt Rushmore of only number sevens I doubt that Mark's face would be carved in stone. He does have a street named after him in Manukau though.
So, which four flankers are above him?
I can think of one, once arguable and then I struggled
We’re taking about Mark Carter right?
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@nzzp said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mn5 said in Michael Jones:
@kirwan said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
who is on the "AB Mt Rushmore" could be a good thread
Oh,oh,oh. Shit fight.
Actually both of these guys probably make it with Meads and Carter.
I've missed out heaps.
the old fuckers here will come for us hard
I reckon only Richie and Meads are locked in, everyone else will be a fucking shitfight.
Carter and Jones are easily locked in too. Same with Lomu.
Presume you mean Dan and not Mark ? Seems a pertinent question in a thread about Michael Jones
Even on a Mt Rushmore of only number sevens I doubt that Mark's face would be carved in stone. He does have a street named after him in Manukau though.
So, which four flankers are above him?
I can think of one, once arguable and then I struggled
Well this thread is about one of them, the other is obvious and mentioned many times in this thread, then I would probably have Mourie, Kirkpatrick. There will be others that I have forgotten.
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@nepia said in Michael Jones:
Better opensides than Mark Carter since and including when he played:
MJ, GOAT, Kronfeld, Ginge, Brewer, Ardie, Zinny those two matches in EOYT when he played openside, etc etc.Also, I was never in the I hate Carter camp either.
duane monkley
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@ploughboy said in Michael Jones:
@nepia said in Michael Jones:
Better opensides than Mark Carter since and including when he played:
MJ, GOAT, Kronfeld, Ginge, Brewer, Ardie, Zinny those two matches in EOYT when he played openside, etc etc.Also, I was never in the I hate Carter camp either.
duane monkley
Sorry, I was just concentrating on test players not local heros.
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@nepia said in Michael Jones:
@nzzp said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mn5 said in Michael Jones:
@kirwan said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@mariner4life said in Michael Jones:
who is on the "AB Mt Rushmore" could be a good thread
Oh,oh,oh. Shit fight.
Actually both of these guys probably make it with Meads and Carter.
I've missed out heaps.
the old fuckers here will come for us hard
I reckon only Richie and Meads are locked in, everyone else will be a fucking shitfight.
Carter and Jones are easily locked in too. Same with Lomu.
Presume you mean Dan and not Mark ? Seems a pertinent question in a thread about Michael Jones
Even on a Mt Rushmore of only number sevens I doubt that Mark's face would be carved in stone. He does have a street named after him in Manukau though.
So, which four flankers are above him?
I can think of one, once arguable and then I struggled
We’re taking about Mark Carter right?
Yeah I wondered if something was lost in translation there. Is Josh Kronfeld’s nickname Mark?
Mourie was another one. Jock Hobbs etc.
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@nepia said in Michael Jones:
@ploughboy said in Michael Jones:
@nepia said in Michael Jones:
Better opensides than Mark Carter since and including when he played:
MJ, GOAT, Kronfeld, Ginge, Brewer, Ardie, Zinny those two matches in EOYT when he played openside, etc etc.Also, I was never in the I hate Carter camp either.
duane monkley
Sorry, I was just concentrating on test players not local heros.
BURN CREAM!
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@snowy said in Michael Jones:
@nepia said in Michael Jones:
We’re taking about Mark Carter right?
Yes. Not quite sure why @nzzp can't think of 4 better flankers than him. Obviously holds him in very high regard.
'twas the sellotape. Made all the difference.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Michael Jones:
Yeah I wondered if something was lost in translation there. Is Josh Kronfeld’s nickname Mark?
Mourie was another one. Jock Hobbs etc.There must have been some sort of miscommunication.
I had Mourie above, and yep Hobbs should be on what is turning into quite an illustrious list.
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@nepia said in Michael Jones:
Better opensides than Mark Carter since and including when he played:
MJ, GOAT, Kronfeld, Ginge, Brewer, Ardie, Zinny those two matches in EOYT when he played openside, etc etc.Also, I was never in the I hate Carter camp either.
Holah at me yo
