RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C)
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Still more kicks by England with quality ball. I don't get that they are a threat, sorry.
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@Chester-Draws doing just enough to win - circa ABs 2015?
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@Chester-Draws said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
Still more kicks by England with quality ball. I don't get that they are a threat, sorry.
Maybe they have some powder of their own? I don't trust that sneaky fucker Jones!
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@voodoo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@westcoastie said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@chimoaus said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
I think Argentina checked out once the card was issued. Worst game of the WC I have seen so far.
Its been a gradual lack of interest - they certainly haven't threatened much.
They've been the disappointment of the RWC for me. I thought they'd stich up France and give England a run.
Me too. There was an Argentinian fan on here for a while really talking them up, had me hoping they'd knock over England and/or France but they've been a real dud. Way worse than previous RWCs.
Too many Friendlies between World Cups
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@booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo Yes, I agree, Lavinini should pay the sanction. Hit him in the pocket. But not the people paying for it. Do you see the distinction?
I do. And think you're wrong.
Why should a thug have free reign on the field?
It's sport. As I have said sport is random.
Players make mistakes. And know there are consequences.
Way hey. Argies score. But still need 3 tries to win
Another problem with "hitting the player in the pocket" is that some players have much bigger pockets than others. Some players will feel a fine more than others, so the deterrent effect won't be the same for all players.
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And when they don't kick, they score.
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@booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo Yes, I agree, Lavinini should pay the sanction. Hit him in the pocket. But not the people paying for it. Do you see the distinction?
I do. And think you're wrong.
Why should a thug have free reign on the field?
It's sport. As I have said sport is random.
Players make mistakes. And know there are consequences.
Way hey. Argies score. But still need 3 tries to win
So you think Lavinini knowingly targeted Farrells head knowing the outcome?
I still think there is a difference between intentional foul play like eye gouging and a player making a poor judgement in the tackle.
You say players make mistakes, I agree these red cards are mistakes and that is the big issue, should a players mistake decide the outcome of the game?
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@chimoaus said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo Yes, I agree, Lavinini should pay the sanction. Hit him in the pocket. But not the people paying for it. Do you see the distinction?
I do. And think you're wrong.
Why should a thug have free reign on the field?
It's sport. As I have said sport is random.
Players make mistakes. And know there are consequences.
Way hey. Argies score. But still need 3 tries to win
So you think Lavinini knowingly targeted Farrells head knowing the outcome?
I still think there is a difference between intentional foul play like eye gouging and a player making a poor judgement in the tackle.
You say players make mistakes, I agree these red cards are mistakes and that is the big issue, should a players mistake decide the outcome of the game?
Yes.
Just as a poor intercept pass does.
That's how sport works.
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
Bit of a dud game in the end.
Argentina have sadly regressed since 2015 rather than kicking on.
I was being told just yesterday they've improved! So confusing...
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C'mon England. One try and I take a massive lead in the work tipping comp.
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The pro-England ITV commentary is hilarious.
Going all ga ga over England's pedestrian win over a 14-man Argentinian team who have been on the skids for a couple of seasons.
9 wins in 45 matches since last WC
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@MiketheSnow let’s hope the frogs put them in their place!
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@Chester-Draws said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@chimoaus said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo Yes, I agree, Lavinini should pay the sanction. Hit him in the pocket. But not the people paying for it. Do you see the distinction?
I do. And think you're wrong.
Why should a thug have free reign on the field?
It's sport. As I have said sport is random.
Players make mistakes. And know there are consequences.
Way hey. Argies score. But still need 3 tries to win
So you think Lavinini knowingly targeted Farrells head knowing the outcome?
I still think there is a difference between intentional foul play like eye gouging and a player making a poor judgement in the tackle.
You say players make mistakes, I agree these red cards are mistakes and that is the big issue, should a players mistake decide the outcome of the game?
Yes.
Just as a poor intercept pass does.
That's how sport works.
But to play devil's advocate, noting I don't agree with the sentiment being proposed that all sanctions occur post-match, an intercept try mistake is punished with a 5-7 point swing. A mistimed/misplaced tackle mistake has potential to be punished with a red card. Im.pretty sure if Argentina were given the choice tonight between a rwd card and a 7 point hit, they'd choose the latter.
Again, not saying red cards don't have their place. Just that I have sympathy for the view that a borderline red has a hugely significant impact considering they're often very subjective.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Tim said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones Who elbowed whom? You nitwit.
Lawes.
See, why doesn't that fuckwit lose the game for his team?
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Yesssssss! That's me three points out from the losers I work with.
I was hugely worried that England would win by more than 40 and deny me the bonus. As if.
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@Chester-Draws I had England by 21 in superbru, last try killed my bonus point. Fucking English, fucking Argentinians!!!
