All Blacks vs Boks
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel Well, Ireland and the Lions might have something to say about that.
Meant down south here. After the shit I copped at school here whenever the Wallabies won, it's very weird to hear the verbal bj the ABs are getting these days.
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weird game huh. up by so many so early while playing so shit.
despite the scoreline, there were still lots of annoying errors to go with a fair bit of very good stuff. i'm a barrett fan, but too many shit kicks too often these days (you too coles), and way too many passes that outside backs had to stop to catch. maybe some of that blame is due to the outside backs over-running it, can't be arsed checking, but it really killed a few opportunities.
taylor was great around the field tonight, but having coles back has made the lineout secure again - and i'm sure we'll see his running game again before long.
our two locks are just fucking awesome eh - 80 minutes at such high quality. a pleasure to watch.
ardie savea just looks knackered or injured or something to me. i don't think it is that he is being proven not up to it - i think he's playing worse than previously. cane is going good though, big man hard man.
scott barrett deserves a fair bit of kudos for taking over from squire early.
sbw - good again, as usual, when he runs straight and hard and doesn't try to be a hero. tried it once, turnover. just not good enough to play that way, play within his limitations and he is an asset.
NMS... chresten davis would catch him from behind. still a good player though. that try with BB gave me the shits though. unnecessarily high risk, save that for when you're up by 50.
dmac, a bit better tonight, except the shocking first high ball.
aaron smith. great tap and kick for the ioane try. jesus he makes the job easier for everyone outside him. makes a man pine for younger years. i am really stoked with how he has developed his game to the extent that sex scandals and the never-ending shame of atrocious spelling no longer even seem to make any impression on his form. -
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@Bones I shouldn't be commenting right now.
The interpretation of all the "contact off the ball" calls was comically bad. Obstruction, clearing past the ball, continuing after the whistle and rolling away was in no way rugby.
Offside was not policed.
Inexperience of the springbok team brutally exposed though. A better side would have identified the gap being afforded by the ref, but the Springbok team failed to take advantage of the opportunity to spoil when it was clearly being allowed
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@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Stockcar86 said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Anyone have any clue what this is all about?
Because SA have two teams playing in Pro 14 comp the SARU President Mark Alexander has been quoted as saying the Springboks could, sometime in the future, field two different test teams - one of a team from the Pro 14 players for tests in Northern Hemisphere and the other of a team from Super Rugby players for tests in Southern Hemisphere.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Boks:
This could end up being a 50/50 game the way we are going
Well, that was wrong!
yeah strange game , we were horrible to begin with
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@Number-10 said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Stockcar86 said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Anyone have any clue what this is all about?
Because SA have two teams playing in Pro 14 comp the SARU President Mark Alexander has been quoted as saying the Springboks could, sometime in the future, field two different test teams - one of a team from the Pro 14 players for tests in Northern Hemisphere and the other of a team from Super Rugby players for tests in Southern Hemisphere.
It was Jurie Roux who said that in an interview around time of the PRO14 launch in SA.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Boks:
This could end up being a 50/50 game the way we are going
Good spotting... 50 something
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@Pot-Hale I think it's these comments here by Mark Alexander (three days ago) that Burger is specifically referring to.
https://www.supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/170913/Boks_could_field_hemisphere_sides_in_future
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57-0 wow didn't see that coming.
Ioane was shit hot. Savea isn't getting that spot back unless Ioane is injured.
Plenty of guys played well. SBW much better when he isn't trying to pull off an off load every touch.
Scott Barrett was good at 6. Great to have that cover on the bench.
Pity Squire went off though, he was looking good.BB's goal kicking was much better. More of that please.
Dmac was better this game but still showing a tendancy to run across field and get monstered.
That early high ball drop was bad too.As someone else said during the game Hames showed that all he is renowned for is giving away penalties. Crockett needs to start until Moody is back.
Ofa was good. Hopefully he has turned a corner.
Thought NMS was pretty good. Not sure why everyone is down on him for lacking pace. As far as i can remember outright pace has never been his strength. It is his stepping, skill and awareness. He showed those tonight. Slowing up to give BB the ball was a much better option than trying to make it and getting run down.
Of our recent 14s only Naholo is known for having real gas. Not sure Dagg or Smith would have made it all the way for that try either. -
@SidBarret said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Quick thoughts.
Congrats to the all blacks and their fans. Should be very happy tonight.
For the springboks, too many guys not up to this level. Coetzee, Rhule, Kriel, Hougaard, Du Toit (as a flanker) Nyukane (as a tight head) Bongi can all fuck off.
Re the Reffing - whatever that was, it was not rugby game you were calling. Fuck off
I really don't get you Saffa fans.
You complain about Kriel yet you have Serfontien plodding around your backline like a fairy elephant.You complain about Bongi when Marx spent the entire match handing the ball to the ABs.
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@pukunui said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Thought NMS was pretty good. Not sure why everyone is down on him for lacking pace. As far as i can remember outright pace has never been his strength. It is his stepping, skill and awareness. He showed those tonight. Slowing up to give BB the ball was a much better option than trying to make it and getting run down.
Of our recent 14s only Naholo is known for having real gas. Not sure Dagg or Smith would have made it all the way for that try either.yeah he's a good player. he was okay tonight, and has never been quick.
pace is undeniably an asset though. naholo and ioane would have scored that themselves, while dagg and smith would have had the pace to get clear enough to put barrett in with one pass without the fucking around - which could easily have gone wrong.those saffa outside backs are fast admittedly - they probably make the case that pace alone is not enough.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@pukunui said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Thought NMS was pretty good. Not sure why everyone is down on him for lacking pace. As far as i can remember outright pace has never been his strength. It is his stepping, skill and awareness. He showed those tonight. Slowing up to give BB the ball was a much better option than trying to make it and getting run down.
Of our recent 14s only Naholo is known for having real gas. Not sure Dagg or Smith would have made it all the way for that try either.yeah he's a good player. he was okay tonight, and has never been quick.
pace is undeniably an asset though. naholo and ioane would have scored that themselves, while dagg and smith would have had the pace to get clear enough to put barrett in with one pass without the fucking around - which could easily have gone wrong.those saffa outside backs are fast admittedly - they probably make the case that pace alone is not enough.
Isn't the issue there that BB didn't have the pace/wasn't in the right position to be put away with a single pass? How would NMS being faster put BB away? He would be further behind NMS and in the same position relative to the chasers.
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@Nepia Re Kriel - defensively poor, high error rate.
Serfontein is good enough, but not a star. Should have been star though.
Marx had a shocker at the line out, and deserves to be criticized, but has credit in the bank (line out tactics were poor as well). Bongi was bad everyawh6
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Few initial thoughts:
Excellent from ABs. Last 30 much better.
Lima's passing is much more 'sympathetic' than BB's, which allows outsides to run onto ball much better.
How come Lion's lineout combo so much worse than when they gave Saders problems?
Dreyer is a canny prop. AB starting scrum nullified. He did same to Moody in Super final. Think there is quite a lot of dark art involved. Once Read had Nige looking at it things settled down. And by the time Crockett on it was game over.
Can't believe how anonymous Bok loosies were. Kolesi was the quietest I can remember.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Not a fan of Devlin, but this tweet is spot on:
Two years ago ABs defeated Boks by 2 points in a RWC Semi; same Boks team was beaten by Japan by same point diff in group stage; ABs prob will put 80 on Japan, but, sure, why not? Ya never know. That's why they play the games.
