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  • Dalai Lama

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    @broughie said in Dalai Lama:

    @Bones Catholic Church, Protestants, Epstein, Micheal Jackson, my grandfather etc. Basically a representation of humanity. No one has a mortgage on the subject.

    Jeepers

  • Coronavirus - New Zealand

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    @No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Those things are fucking terrible.

    I'm not a cake person at all, but Lamingtons are surely kiddie food. Sponge cake dipped in chocolate rolled in desiccated coconut.

    At a morning tea, my weakness is always

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    Fark yes!!! Them and parties pies, I could get through a mountain of each

    100%! I get really annoyed at work if someone gets catering and they've tried to get something fancy instead of a selection of sausage rolls, party pies and those little quiches. They're also convenient in that I can load up a plate of them and take them back to my desk with minimal interaction with other people in the office.

    Forgot about those delicious little quiches!

    Only the vegetarian ones are gay 😏

  • Jacinda resigned

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    @nzzp said in Jacinda resigned:

    @canefan said in Jacinda resigned:

    They assume to know best

    ... And don't want to relinquish control. Hence an initial centralized vaccine rollout that ignored GP and other medical facilities.

    And the failure to talk to iwi and other ethnic leaders to try and get buy in grossly hampered vaccine uptake. I had to regularly explain to people why we weren't open during the early lockdowns despite being considered emergency services, sort of. And don't get me started on PPE.....

  • Reparations for blacks

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    @Crucial said in Reparations for blacks:

    @MajorRage said in Reparations for Blacks:

    @Crucial said in Grumpy Old Man:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Grumpy Old Man:

    @Higgins said in Grumpy Old Man:

    I'll bet there will be a fair few grumps when the bill for this lands on someone's desk to pay.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/san-francisco-reparations-panel-proposes-7-8m-to-every-eligible-back-resident-total-debt-forgiveness/ar-AA16pS7n?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=717e624b02dd4c9a82d44c6ec93f8f74

    So what happens if you're mixed race? Do they divide it by fraction of black?

    To answer this question for others, the explanation is in the article.

    Interesting concept, trying to monetise societal impacts. Obviously done with knowledge that it wouldn’t fly but to show the impacts of the past.

    The impact of the past is 7.8m per person?

    You can’t tell me you believe that.

    I don't have too. I wouldn't have a clue what their calculation methodology was.

    I don't really understand this comment.

    I get your point of what they are trying to do, but I guess I misread your previous post talking about impacts of the past that you may have thought it was potentially justified.

    I am far from discrediting the idea (although if it were to come in, I'd GTFO San Fran as quickly as I could) as income disparity there is horriffic. You have Silicon Valley, perhaps the headquarters of wealth on the planet these days, and then the streets of San Fran are literally filled with homeless. It's truly terrible, and a very very bad look for your average capitalist.

    However, 7.8mm per person would put your average black household of 2 adults into the wealthiest 1% in one of the wealthiest cities (by average) on the planet.

    It makes the whole exercise look like nothing more than a cash grab / hand out. And that is truly terrible.

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    @No-Quarter said in Alternative Covid - Challenging the Narrative:
    The Flu is so much worse it's not even funny, the whole thing is a joke.

    Can confirm. I have it right now. Two days of fever and nothing else. Feeling better today.

  • Brexit

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    @Crucial said in Brexit:

    @MajorRage said in Brexit:

    @Crucial said in Brexit:

    @MajorRage said in Brexit:

    Country can thrive, but won’t, because too many don’t want it to. It’s that simple.

    An opinion.

    I keep out of this board mostly as it is just polemic and even if you try to be open to both sides and ask for an opposing view supported by fact you get accused of having made your mind up.

    Not attacking you or your comment but I'm not stupid enough to think that people's opinions aren't tainted. I actually like to hear both sides and make my own mind up. In this day and age that gets very difficult

    Apologies, that posted sound more aggressive than it meant to.

    I agree with your response entirely.

    The point I’m making is that we will never know the true truth about Brexit. Is the economy down vs Europe since Brexit? Unequivocally, yes. Is it Brexits fault? Yes, and no.

    In my view, it’s down more because of the pandemic. An underbelly of this country has been exposed. It has a very large, extremely lazy, sub section. They were lazy before, they got lazier under govt support snd they fight going back.

    The thought of picking up the slack is non existent. Blame the govt, instead of working harder. Jobs are EVERYWHERE for the poor. Because people left after the pandemic and the Poms didn’t pick up the slack. They moaned, they whinged …. Then sat on their arses as the vacancies piled up. The media has ploughed so much negativity that ppl have lost faith, and the will, to improve.

    It’s sad. Under a United country, it would thrive. Properly. But there are too many who would rather piss, whinge, moan than take advantage of the opportunities.

    Back in the early part of this thread when debating/arguing sides this very outcome was predicted. I have worked in environments where it was Euro immigration doing most of the grunt work and on the rare occasions a local would try out they would be gone in hours as it was too hard (or easier not to work).

    I think you've highlighted precisely one of the things which is badly wrong with the UK and why so many businesses supported Remain and advocate re-joining the EU.

    Why bother about actually motivating your staff, increasing productivity and investing in people when it's so much easier to get cheaper labour from Eastern Europe and blame the locals for a poor work-ethic? And when the feckless, work-shy locals vote to leave the EU, it's so much easier to castigate them and call them names rather than understand their concerns rather than actually do the grunt work of getting the best out of your people. (That said, there are UK sectors with fantastic management - as @MajorRage has pointed).

    For me, much of the Brexit debate is/was about making life easier for the wealthier sectors of the country rather than improving growth, productivity and maximising the potential of the whole of the UK. I voted Remain way back, but seeing the negative impact of EU membership in Cornwall (the poorest region of the UK) along with the antics of second referendum advocates, has changed my mind completely.

  • Sportswashing

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    @Tim said in Sportswashing:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/20/business/caesars-sports-betting-universities-colleges.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    American universities are fucking disgusting, especially the bigger sports schools. just brothels by another name.

  • Is this thing sustainable?

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    @MiketheSnow they'll eat the farmers meat but want to tax them for farting. They have no credibility.

  • Global Recession

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    Not sure where to put this, related to inflation, recession and politics.

  • Lockdown/Covid Check In

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Lockdown/Covid Check In:

    @mikedogz hopefully it passes with little to no symptoms

    where are you based? don't think we even have any restrictions if you test positive anymore in aus

    Labour should have done this already. You sick? Stay at home. Otherwise you can come and go as you please

  • Tax rates

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    @chimoaus said in Tax rates:

    @antipodean said in Tax rates:

    @chimoaus It's hard to tax paper wealth.

    No doubt, I guess I just struggle to hear the profits of the big banks being 14.4 billion and wondering if more of that should be redistributed to services and community.

    Just nationalise them, wait a year or two and there'll likely be no profits at all and the problem of distributing the profits will vanish as well.

  • Inflation

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  • Japan Former PM Abe assassinated

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    @Kid-Chocolate Looks like a typical noob to me.

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  • The campaign against Joe Rogan's podcast

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    LOL.

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  • Ricky Gervais At Globes

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    @Bones

    I know I am but don’t care

  • Coronavirus memes (memes only)

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  • NZ News

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    @Tim

    I don’t know the answer, but if they’re evangelicals it certainly would be unsurprising that they’re anti-vax. My mennonite relatives (new order) are absolutely the most hardcore unvaccinated people I know. I know others (especially of protestant faiths whose churchs are movie cinemas rented on Sunday mornings) who will have nothing to do with the jab. Still, I’m not convinced this makes them child abusers and molesters. You’d never know it by our modern-day guilt-by-association news and social media though, where anti-vax means pederast every bit as much as free speech means nazi. Just the way it is.

  • Black Lives Matter

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    @booboo said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Catogrande said in Black Lives Matter:

    @booboo

    Oli London or catgender person? I was referring to the former.

    Oli London

    Oli certainly has an interesting Wiki page and on the face of that I would say a complete piss taking troll and hats off compadre. But the radical surgery seems taking the piss taking a little far?

  • Zac Guildford

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    For an ordinary person, the unprovoked assault probably would have been home-detention worthy depending on how badly injured the female victim was and her views at sentencing.

    It's not uncommon for people to escape jail on fraud charges in the vicinity of $100k , especially if reparation is ordered or they have some ability to repay the money. Also (sadly) especially if they're white and middle class.