SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs
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@Dan54 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
I genuinely think the 9s will be TJ, Christie and then probably Ratima or Fakatava.
There's really no justification for leaving Ratima out of that group. If they pick TJ Christie and Fakatava they might as well just select the squad before Super Rugby season even starts.
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@KiwiMurph said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
I genuinely think the 9s will be TJ, Christie and then probably Ratima or Fakatava.
There's really no justification for leaving Ratima out of that group. If they pick TJ Christie and Fakatava they might as well just select the squad before Super Rugby season even starts.
Well they did reckon 80% was picked quite sometime ago.
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Ratima seems like the sort of player Razor would like at 9, IMO.
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@nostrildamus said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Ratima seems like the sort of player Razor would like at 9, IMO.
He did want him at the Crusaders.
I think TJP and Christie will be chosen with the third halfback up for grabs.
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Mate of mine who went to the game spoke with Slater after the game. He said he should be alright for next week but Samisoni isn't looking like he'll play.
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50/50
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@Bovidae said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@nostrildamus said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Ratima seems like the sort of player Razor would like at 9, IMO.
He did want him at the Crusaders.
I think TJP and Christie will be chosen with the third halfback up for grabs.
Suspect Razor will only pick 9s with the attributes he wants, that he thinks he can turn into a Test 9 in the next few years.
Christie probably has the inside running on TJ in that he's younger - but who knows relaly
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@Yeetyaah said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Mate of mine who went to the game spoke with Slater after the game. He said he should be alright for next week but Samisoni isn't looking like he'll play.
Thank god he is over his concussion. It was touch and go for a while.
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@Bovidae said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@nostrildamus said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Ratima seems like the sort of player Razor would like at 9, IMO.
He did want him at the Crusaders.
I think TJP and Christie will be chosen with the third halfback up for grabs.
He also wanted Fakatava who almost signed with them.
I guess Rangi will want Christie ...
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Scott Hansen is the inside backs halfback selector (with Razor having final say)
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@Bones said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Inside word is the chiefs are 50/50 to win next week.
My bad for sharing something I got told a few hours before the game that ended up happening… two weeks in a row. I am NOT the new George 😂😂 50/50 though
It's not you I'm taking the piss out of fella...
@Bones said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Bones said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Inside word is the chiefs are 50/50 to win next week.
My bad for sharing something I got told a few hours before the game that ended up happening… two weeks in a row. I am NOT the new George 😂😂 50/50 though
It's not you I'm taking the piss out of fella...
George50/50. 👍
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@Stag said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Canes4life not surprising that the Chiefs won and will win next week. Only teams with outstanding first fives win the comp. Mehrts, Larkham, Carter, Spencer, Cruden, Mounga etc. And McKenzie will be the next.
mmm, Derrick Hougard and Bernard Foley’s standing seems to have been significantly elevated from okay to “outstanding” now…..
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Rugby hates itself.
We have to call that try back because of a potentially glancing blow to head.
And now you’ll need to spend 10 in the bin because you smashed a guy - totally legitimately- half a second late.
I don’t think there is anything to see when a little white guy leads with his head on this guy though.
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Canes suck lol. Hold that L
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@antipodean said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Canes4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@KiwiMurph yeah bro was at the game. Disappointed but the Chiefs were the better team on the day. Fair play to them.
Canes will be better for the experience. Getting Roigard, Savea and Numia back when it matters next year will help.
All in all a much better year but still disappointing to finish the way we did.
TBH it's been a stellar season for the Canes considering no one really expected them to be in the semis. Less crucial injuries and a five-eighth who doesn't conspire to fuck everything up and they'll be a considerable force for a while.
I think they got away from playing the rugby that got them there. Far too expansive early, and never really recovered. Chiefs played a very efficient finals football game, which allowed their players to shine
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@ACT-Crusader said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Stag said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Canes4life not surprising that the Chiefs won and will win next week. Only teams with outstanding first fives win the comp. Mehrts, Larkham, Carter, Spencer, Cruden, Mounga etc. And McKenzie will be the next.
mmm, Derrick Hougard and Bernard Foley’s standing seems to have been significantly elevated from okay to “outstanding” now…..
And Lima lol
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@ACT-Crusader @Landers92 I sense some frantic goalpost transportation will be along in due course...
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@KiwiMurph said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
All I ask is for next week is for Angus Gardner to NOT be the referee next week.
Or Doleman
Probably Berry
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@No-Quarter said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Donsteppa said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Hell of a win for the Chiefs. Around the 55 - 60 minute mark I thought we were about to be run down in a hurry.
A massive physical battle all round. Physios will sur earn their keep after that one.
That intercept from Sititi that led to the try broke us there
A few millimeters the other way and he would have had a yellow for deliberate knock down but it was his night for sure and showed exceptional skill to hold on to it
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How did they miss TJP's head hit on the Chiefs No.8? That was some shite officiating! Cripes, almost conspiracy-making incompetency.
Canes will be better next year. The difference was the Chiefs experience in losing the final last year I reckon.
Finau is my favourite Super Rugby player. A friggen legend in the making. I am not sure they should play DMac in the final, if those nasty Aucks somehow conspire to injure him, the ABs are in the shit. -
@Stockcar86 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Let the 9 throw it in like the 70's
Normally was the winger in the 70s over arm style
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Very pleased with that result. But geez I think the TJs and the dickhead TMO really let down Gardner with their oversights and review judgements.
Best game I have seen from Ratima. TJP was at his worst though, trying to milk every advantage. Christie is easily our best test 9 behind Roigard now.
Don't get all the rubbishing Jacobsen Vaai and ALB get on this forum either.
DMac remains most influential player in Super rugby.
And Sititi and Dyer might get watched closer by AB selectors in final.
Thinking hard about a trip to Eden Park next Saturday like about 20000 others from Chiefs territory no doubt!
Anyways great season Canes! Very consistent throughout and so many players playing to peak ability each week. -
@ARHS said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Thinking hard about a trip to Eden Park next Saturday like about 20000 others from Chiefs territory no doubt!
Do it!
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@Nevorian said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@KiwiMurph said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Landers92 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
All I ask is for next week is for Angus Gardner to NOT be the referee next week.
Or Doleman
Probably Berry
hope its not ben othief
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@Nevorian said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Donsteppa said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Hell of a win for the Chiefs. Around the 55 - 60 minute mark I thought we were about to be run down in a hurry.
A massive physical battle all round. Physios will sur earn their keep after that one.
That intercept from Sititi that led to the try broke us there
A few millimeters the other way and he would have had a yellow for deliberate knock down but it was his night for sure and showed exceptional skill to hold on to it
Forward
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@Nevorian said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Stockcar86 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Let the 9 throw it in like the 70's
Normally was the winger in the 70s over arm style
Berbizier used to throw for the Frogs in the 80s. Underarm. But I digress.
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@Yeahtheboys said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Canes suck lol. Hold that L
I have been skewered by your rapier wit
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I made a comment before that game about complacency but I actually think it was more of a freeze/choke.
Canes just didn’t want the ball until it was too late.
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@Kirwan said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
I made a comment before that game about complacency but I actually think it was more of a freeze/choke.
Canes just didn’t want the ball until it was too late.
I think this team just didn't time their run right. The Canes played their best rugby at the start and through the middle of the season. We haven't looked at our best for the last three or four weeks unfortunately. Whereas the Chiefs did the opposite and are timing their run to perfection. I've seen the Canes choke plenty of times but this wasn't a choke in my view, our form just turned to shit at the wrong time.
A huge challenge for Laidlaw next year is to get the guys humming towards the back end of the campaign if they want success. The Blues and Chiefs have gone through the same learnings over the last few years aswell and they are better for it now.
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@Kirwan said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
I made a comment before that game about complacency but I actually think it was more of a freeze/choke.
Canes just didn’t want the ball until it was too late.
First comment I saw after the game from
A canes supports from our golf club was that it was the refs fault.Classic Hurricanes fan.
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if it wasnt for the tmo we would have put 40 + on them
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You don't win comps in April
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@Hooroo said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
A canes supports from our golf club was that it was the refs fault.
filthy casuals are filthy casuals.
Refs sucked, but the Chefs have far more to complain about. The card on Jacobsen was ridiculous. Rugby hates itself.
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the non look at perenaras was worse
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@Kirwan said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
I made a comment before that game about complacency but I actually think it was more of a freeze/choke.
Canes just didn’t want the ball until it was too late.
My view is the coaches lost the plot with selections after about the half way point
Until then their selections were spot on.
Examples They had Viljoen and Higgins both starting and playing very well. Later they were nowhere to be seen. The limited Sullivan and Judd were preferred. Sullivan is very limited but maybe he has good leadership qualities. Like Blackwell and Prinsep. But I hoped this rubbish was in the past.
And other poor selections. Moorby completely lost interest after he signed elsewhere (until then he looked AB quality). He should have been dropped completely. Iose was another one who completely lost form. But they dropped Flanders to the reserves who was just hitting great form and brought Shields back who was just recovering from injury. So, 2 out of three were out of form in the semi.
The biggest issue was not addressing 1st 5. They never even tried even when it was obvious Cameron was just not good enough.
The coaches were much better than the useless top two coaches last year (Holland and Gibbes) but later in the year they lost it. Selections were bordering on Blackwell like. Including having short replacement locks in one game
I hope Laidlaw is able to see this. To see what happened to go so badly off track. Including an idiotic game plan in the semi. If he can do this and find a good replacement backs coach, they have the players to win next year. Otherwise, they will continue to just make up the numbers.
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@Kirwan said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
I made a comment before that game about complacency but I actually think it was more of a freeze/choke.
Canes just didn’t want the ball until it was too late.
Game plan was flawed, no doubt. We kicked too much ball away, we were overly-expansive instead of keeping it tight and trying to wear the Chiefs down up front. But a very good year for a young team, the Chiefs just showed their quality when it mattered
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@Machpants said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Yeahtheboys said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Canes suck lol. Hold that L
I have been skewered by your rapier wit
You might have to use simpler words
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@canefan said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Machpants said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
@Yeahtheboys said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:
Canes suck lol. Hold that L
I have been skewered by your rapier wit
You might have to use simpler words
Is this the rapier culture I keep hearing about?
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