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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #25

    I said this after the 2019 RWC exit and the loss of several players and a new coach that there would be some rocky times ahead for the ABs. So in a COVID restriction based environment we saw the roller coaster over the last 4 years.

    I expect that there will be some up and down performances as new players find their place in the side.

    For me lock, hooker, blindside, halfback and 1st 5 are the areas we need to find some talent and quickly.

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    I think the rebuilding after the 2015 cup was probably way bigger, wasn't it?
    Losing McCaw, Kaino, Nonu, Conrad, and probably a few more (sorry), those were probably all World XV starters (anyone who takes O'Driscoll over Conrad has just got it wrong). Now, the locks are going to be hard to replace, but otherwise it isn't looking too bad.

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    @Tordah said in All Blacks 2024:

    I think the rebuilding after the 2015 cup was probably way bigger, wasn't it?
    Losing McCaw, Kaino, Nonu, Conrad, and probably a few more (sorry), those were probably all World XV starters (anyone who takes O'Driscoll over Conrad has just got it wrong). Now, the locks are going to be hard to replace, but otherwise it isn't looking too bad.

    The biggest issues post 2015 was the midfield and blindside. We had players but it became a revolving door because of injury and form.

    Replacing McCaw was somewhat easier because Cane had served a decent apprenticeship. Not that they are like for like, but we had a player ready.

    Read was still there and playing some quality footy in 2016-17.

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    #28

    The captain is going to be an interesting proposition

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2024:

    Any chance of savea moving back to 7 under Robertson?

    Nah, Blackadder for 7, Ardie and Finau in 8 and 6.

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    #30

    Roigard-DMac-Jordie-Reiko-Telea-Narawa-Jordan Looking good
    Just need a 6 and a plan
    Haven't had much of a plan over the last 4 years so here's hoping.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

    The captain is going to be an interesting proposition

    Ardie or Scott B?

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  • BonesB Online
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    #32

    Lomax captain

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    #33

    Ardie

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    #34

    I think I read somewhere that England are coming over for a tour in July. That should be fun!

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    I think the starters almost take care of themselves, it’s the bench and the wider squad that present the bigger questions…

    Groot
    Soni
    Lomax
    Lord / Vaai
    Dogroll
    ? (Finau, Blackadder, A Ioane, Vaai)
    Papalii
    Savea
    Roigard
    DMac
    Telea
    Jordie
    R Ioane
    Stevenson / Jordn
    Jordan / Stevenson

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    I expect Taylor will continue to start at hooker. Telea could switch back to the right wing depending on who is at 15.

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  • P Offline
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    #37

    i think we need to see the super season before we pick a team

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  • R Offline
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    #38

    Ardie is not a good captain. Under pressure he plays harder, but gets emotional and makes poor decisions.

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    @reprobate and what's the alternative? Scott Barrett who has brain explosions on a regular...

    I've been impressed with Ardie's captaincy this year, I actually think he's matured a lot compared to when he started captaining the side a couple years ago (when he was prone to make silly decisions).

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Yes, pros and cons for both Savea and SB as captain.

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    ClubRugby.co.nz understands that T Ellison who recently departed the Wellington Lions as their head coach, is taking up a role with the incoming All Blacks coaching team, following another stint with the Crusaders.

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    #42

    Another reason Ardie Savea should be captain moving forward:

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    Can anyone honestly see Cane making it next year ? He’s been a very good All Black. Played an absolute blinder against Ireland but ( harshly or not ) shat the bed in the massive moment that counted.

    I think he’s done and will get jettisoned Gary Whetton style.

    @Tim you’re not allowed to comment on this. Thanks mate.

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    @MN5 he's going to struggle to make the team I suspect.

    An absolute warrior, but limited. Game of his career in the QF, adn looked good in teh final until the card. Love him, but I think he unbalances the trio (like Ardie, who's arguably more unique by some margin)

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