All Blacks 2024.. locked

[nostrildamus]

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

The captain is going to be an interesting proposition

Ardie or Scott B?

[Bones]

Lomax captain

[BerniesCorner]

Ardie

[sparky]

I think I read somewhere that England are coming over for a tour in July. That should be fun!

[junior]

I think the starters almost take care of themselves, it’s the bench and the wider squad that present the bigger questions…

Groot
Soni
Lomax
Lord / Vaai
Dogroll
? (Finau, Blackadder, A Ioane, Vaai)
Papalii
Savea
Roigard
DMac
Telea
Jordie
R Ioane
Stevenson / Jordn
Jordan / Stevenson

[Bovidae]

I expect Taylor will continue to start at hooker. Telea could switch back to the right wing depending on who is at 15.

[ploughboy]

i think we need to see the super season before we pick a team

[reprobate]

Ardie is not a good captain. Under pressure he plays harder, but gets emotional and makes poor decisions.

[Canes4life]

@reprobate and what's the alternative? Scott Barrett who has brain explosions on a regular...

I've been impressed with Ardie's captaincy this year, I actually think he's matured a lot compared to when he started captaining the side a couple years ago (when he was prone to make silly decisions).

[Bovidae]

Yes, pros and cons for both Savea and SB as captain.

[Canes4life]

ClubRugby.co.nz understands that T Ellison who recently departed the Wellington Lions as their head coach, is taking up a role with the incoming All Blacks coaching team, following another stint with the Crusaders.

[Canes4life]

Another reason Ardie Savea should be captain moving forward:

[MN5]

Can anyone honestly see Cane making it next year ? He’s been a very good All Black. Played an absolute blinder against Ireland but ( harshly or not ) shat the bed in the massive moment that counted.

I think he’s done and will get jettisoned Gary Whetton style.

@Tim you’re not allowed to comment on this. Thanks mate.

[nzzp]

@MN5 he's going to struggle to make the team I suspect.

An absolute warrior, but limited. Game of his career in the QF, adn looked good in teh final until the card. Love him, but I think he unbalances the trio (like Ardie, who's arguably more unique by some margin)

[reprobate]

@Canes4life No, that's a reason that he's a good bloke - but has zero to do with whether he's a good captain.

[Stag]

@Gunner Ioane is not and will not be a lock in at centre, we need a distributor and real reader of the game at centre going forward

[taniwharugby]

@Stag that we dont have, and despite his limitations, Ioane is still developing (not ideal I know) but I think persevering and building a backline around him and Jordie is important.

[Old Samurai Jack]

Sam Cane has been off the pace for a while now with one exception, the Ireland game. I have never seen an AB No. 7 so ineffective as during some games in the 2022 season. And part of the ABs loose trio problems in the Foster era was playing multiple 7s at the same time.

[Stag]

@Old-Samurai-Jack green is exactly what we need. A clean start and 4 years to work with…

[Stag]

@junior I don’t think Vaii should or will get near another AB squad, unless he shows massive improvements at Super level.