RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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People are saying Ireland did not play to their potential, I tend to think the ABs had a lot more to do with it.
First we dominated the scoreboard which caused the Irish to chase the score, no way any northern hemisphere side turns down so many shots at goal.
We denied the Irish one of their biggest weapons and that is ruck turnover or penalties at the ruck. In fact it was the opposite with us getting many more jackels and penalties.
We denied the Irish set piece platforms as they did not have a single scrum feed and we stole a few lineouts. Our ball control was next level.
Wayne Barnes actually helped us more than we thought even though he missed a lot. The fact the Irish received 5 penalties early for ruck and scrum infringements set the tone that they could not flop on the ruck or try anything at scrum time.
We also handled their dummy runners pretty well with only a few clear breaks. JB, RI are very good defensively and they had a forward always tackling Aki.
Now we also put ourselves under a lot of pressure by stupid clearing kicks and poor exits. This has to improve. The Irish also made so many easy metres down our left hand side, it was scary how they got over the gain line.
I truly believe the coaches and players really executed their plan to perfection and perhaps Fozzie needs more credit but I can’t help but think Schmidt was the brains behind the plan.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
This isn’t true. They have always had loads of issues, they just simply don’t get analysed as they won. No team is perfect.
If we’d had a defensive lapse and they scored in the last minute to win, nobody would be talking about these at all.
Just like in the SA match. Every single thing you talk about was in the SA match.
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
A couple of things.
That last phase of play started with Sexton's 22 drop out bang on 76mins. It finished at 82:18. 6mins and 18 seconds later.
NZ gave Ireland the ball (what the fuck was that kick Nuggie?) at 77 mins.
For the leaguies out there, the All Blacks withstood the equivalent of seven consecutive "6 agains", in 5 and a half minutes.
Sorry, noticed error in bold
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@Rapido said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rapido said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Unsure if this image has been posted already, but that meant something...
Unlike.
Reminds me of a team too pleased with themselves and about to crash hard the following week.
Reminds me of Ireland 2015 actually.
It's up to all of us to keep bagging them. Dare them to win to spite us!
Tbh, even the good/great AB teams struggled the following week after a standout knock-out match. Difference is, this is a shit AB team.
They were so shit today
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Right, so....
I'm not going to claim any sort of moral high ground, because this is all spite....
Fuck, we didn't deserve to win, but we did.
And I'm perversely more happy that Ireland didn't win, rather than that the All Blacks did win.
J Sexton was a fucking blight on the game, and now he's gone.
He was a fluffybunny. In the face/ear of referees, "simulation", etc. Just... fuck off. Begone. The sport is better off without you.
And... what the actual fuck? We won?
And... I've been drinking for 14 hours... I don't even know if I'm coherent... but fucking... there it is. Fuck Sexton. And it's awesomely appropriate that the Foster era will be ended by a loss to Argentina. -
Oh - and what the actual FUCK was with kicking the ball away with 4 minutes to go?
Was it an 'accord' to make the game more interesting? Or an assassination attempt on me - to give me a heart attack?
Just... what the actual fuck? Stop it. You fucking dicks. -
So, ah, maybe we should have started Cane in 2019 eh?
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
So I don't disagree with Kearney in what is an Irish analysis of the match for an Irish audience (BTW who was the Aussie at the end of that coverage?). He was clearly disappointed. Sounded very familiar to the post 2007 QF analysis, where we didn't play even remotely to what we had been playing prior to the RWC.
Matt Williams think his name is , Aussie coach who worked over there for years , now in their media
Was Wobbly coach for a year wasn't he?
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ABs seen walking past this sign this week....
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@mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Just on that last Irish possession, that was really smart accurate defense. Shuffled, covered everything, picke their moments to try the turnover. It was tense, but we never looked like breaking. Good shape, hard shoulders, smart play.
Noticeable too was the ABs lining up well short of the offside line, again and again. By that time they knew they'd done the mahi in the first half making the whole Irish team work too hard for the yard and were confident they were reduced to just through the hands
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@NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Been out all day. Saw the last 5 minutes this morning so nice to get time this afternoon to get a look at the rest.
ABs first attacking raid going 29 phases without incident is pretty good.
Ireland's lineout and ruck are nervy.
I thought Barnes got the first scrum wrong tho - ABs THP folded in for me
Look at porter, he knew exactly what he'd done, didn't even give it the regulation prop head shake.
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Watching again. We obviously held on but gee that decision to put up the bomb with 3min to go was absolutely retarded.
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It’s been a minute…
I’ve been preoccupied with life. Perhaps I have lived in Australia too long now. The game with all its changes and the lack of parochialism for the game, here in Eshay-land, has rubbed off on me. I don’t follow the NPC anymore and couldn’t tell you who the captain is for Wellington. But this World Cup has been somewhat of a revival for my interest. I have always been a rugby guy but it’s waned in the Nrl stronghold of QLD where I live. Now though, watching this WC has been great for helping me remember that even though I don’t recognise many things about the game I grew up playing, living and loving. There are still aspects of this great sport that are thankfully still very much the same. The drama and the banding together to get the job done are very much still there. The fairytale for someone like Whitelock to be the player to earn his team penalty to finish them off. It’s why we watch.
Not surprisingly I still hate England. But I also now very much dislike Ireland. Sexton, as others have said, is an absolute fuckwit. Seeing all these Insta posts during the last few years, saying he was as good as Larkham, Wilkinson and DC was annoying. But the closer the World Cup got he was being touted as the best flyhalf the game has seen. The best flyhalf the game has seen shovelled the ball on for 80 odd minutes today. The biggest game of his career and all he had to offer was an etc set of hands for the ball to touch. I haven’t been here for some 2-3 years and when I was the Irish posters were always very good blokes. I don’t like to say gracious as that sounds patronising. Just good guys. But fuck your team has become easy to dislike. When you’re the top guys detractors are everywhere I guess. Also to be the best you need to have an arrogance about you. But Ireland, in the last 10-12 months especially ( “ …a shit McCaw”) have just built themselves up to a point where todays obvious tragedy, for them, is oh so enjoyable for everyone else. The fact they have been as good as they have been is great for the game. It’s great for their fans and great for their country. But otherwise pretty please, with a cherry on top, eat. a. dick. (Can I say that? I am not up to date with the in and outs of the fern in 2023). Again that’s not focussed on the Irish posters here. Just the Irish team themselves and the non rugby Irish bandwagon hoppers. But especially you Sexton. Who post match had a face like a thousand sucked lemons. I don’t doubt his disappointment was real and he has had an outstanding career for his country. But you’re the type of player the game needs rid of. There was a moment where, as a senior player he was mouthing off, post game at one of his teams mates when he should have been consoling him. Fuck right off.
Anyway on to the next. Ardie and Cane played their best game together, I thought. We tackled like demons and there were selections we either couldn’t make through injury or discipline that meant we could have been potentially better. So fuck all this talk that Ireland didn’t show up. We just meshed and got it right with what players we had on the day and tackled them out of the game.
I don’t care, in this moment, if we win from here. I’m contented, for today. Tomorrow will be different. But today I’m just happy for this team.
I’ve been drinking since 3pm it’s 7:30 now so I apologise if that’s incoherent waffle.
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
So I don't disagree with Kearney in what is an Irish analysis of the match for an Irish audience (BTW who was the Aussie at the end of that coverage?). He was clearly disappointed. Sounded very familiar to the post 2007 QF analysis, where we didn't play even remotely to what we had been playing prior to the RWC.
Matt Williams think his name is , Aussie coach who worked over there for years , now in their media
Was Wobbly coach for a year wasn't he?
Not sure , Scotland I think in the early 2000s , and Leinster ?
Doesn’t mind giving a few controversial opinions , like South African rugby is boring , Allblacks are cynical etc
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Watching again. We obviously held on but gee that decision to put up the bomb with 3min to go was absolutely retarded.
I left the room at that point...
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@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
All 6 tries were scored by New Zealanders!
Apart from the penalty try....
... And the Tongan
Chalk up the PT to Taylor.
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That like calling Richie McCaw a Scotsman.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Alo had never stepped foot on Tongan soil for anything more than a quick visit.
You are confusing nationality with heritage. Anyway he’s an adopted Irishman now
