All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Front row okay at the scrum considering the shitshow behind them. But cooked from being on their heels
Sam Whitelock a huge shift
Scott Barrett welcome back. 3 dumb blatant penalties and a red card worthy piece of rubbish. Fuck entirely off
Luke Jacobson non entity
Cane did fuck all, but abandoned by those around him
As bas as you will see Ardie play. An overall negative in attack and defence
Smith given nothing
Mounga is the worst 10 in the world to.have behind that "platform"
Jordie? Doesn't pass except to green shirts. Missed a one on one to give up a 40m linebreak. Awful
Ioane may as well have not played
The wings were good!
BBarrett was shit. At least try and tackle you fucking fairyBench? Dropped balls. Shit set piece. ALB knocked on
Mostly agree. I'm slightly less critical of the backs because of the shit that was happening in front of them. Poor kicking from hand didn't help though
I though Rieko had a tidy game on defence, quite often he was having to cover a couple of attackers and he used his speed well.
Telea somehow keeps beating people. It makes no sense. 11 defenders beaten in a game where we didn't have much ball is impressive
Apparently Telea beat 7 more defenders than the bloke in second. Some shift.
Caleb Clarke looks redundant with Telea in that sort of touch.
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Front row okay at the scrum considering the shitshow behind them. But cooked from being on their heels
Sam Whitelock a huge shift
Scott Barrett welcome back. 3 dumb blatant penalties and a red card worthy piece of rubbish. Fuck entirely off
Luke Jacobson non entity
Cane did fuck all, but abandoned by those around him
As bas as you will see Ardie play. An overall negative in attack and defence
Smith given nothing
Mounga is the worst 10 in the world to.have behind that "platform"
Jordie? Doesn't pass except to green shirts. Missed a one on one to give up a 40m linebreak. Awful
Ioane may as well have not played
The wings were good!
BBarrett was shit. At least try and tackle you fucking fairyBench? Dropped balls. Shit set piece. ALB knocked on
Mostly agree. I'm slightly less critical of the backs because of the shit that was happening in front of them. Poor kicking from hand didn't help though
I though Rieko had a tidy game on defence, quite often he was having to cover a couple of attackers and he used his speed well.
Telea somehow keeps beating people. It makes no sense. 11 defenders beaten in a game where we didn't have much ball is impressive
Apparently Telea beat 7 more defenders than the bloke in second. Some shift.
All 7 were in the kick off take he made most likely
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel that wasn't a set move to run blind FFS. Ardie accidently tapped the ball blind. Had Talea kicked the ball ahead, they bay have been planted further down field for a while.
Calm down. That was I started tuning in. Regardless, it is something this team is want to do.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
When was the last time this side put 3 statement wins together? None. They had the opportunity this year and fucked it.
Uh this year? Argie in Argie, vs Boks in Auckland a week later. Then destroyed Wallabies in front of 83k in Melbourne.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@chimoaus
And Jordie Barrett’s defense tonight
Sam Cane was just not there
Jacobsen not good enough
De Groot smashed in the scrumsFucking everything was a concern.
I hope Foster has enough space in his dairy for all the lessons from today.
All he has got in his dairy are pies and ice creams
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Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel yeah but he was forced into it and it could have come off.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
A record loss is a different thing, tho
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@Stag said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
so anyone held at a ruck has the right to just reply by punching in the head, jog on…
It was mostly slaps on the back. This happens in every match.
Gamesmanship from Jacobson with a performative repsonse from the player held. The ref saw it and recognised it was nothing
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Stag said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Duluth so anyone held at a ruck has the right to just reply by punching in the head, jog on…
Their arm, yes. Head is red card, he should be cited
Back of the shoulder & middle of the back.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
The Boks did put an under done team against us in Auckland,most of that Bok team had not played since The end of the premiership months earlier.
Maybe that win was a false dawn.
Even the Argies we beat were under done had only been together a few days and had not played for months ,
Maybe we got a false hope from those performances but if you look closer it doesn’t look as impressive as we first thought. -
It changes how I look at that quarter final ,
I was thinking hope it’s SA , now it doesn’t matter , I don’t believe we start favourites in either options .
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I understand player welfare etc but I would be curious to see how many minutes each player in the squad has played since the end of super rugby. Some would have very little game time which must make it hard to be consistent when you are training for 99% of the time.
Edit: In saying that Roigard probably has very few but has been stellar in all his minutes in black so far.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
The Boks did put an under done team against us in Auckland,most of that Bok team had not played since The end of the premiership months earlier.
Maybe that win was a false dawn.
Even the Argies we beat were under done had only been together a few days and had not played for months ,
Maybe we got a false hope from those performances but if you look closer it doesn’t look as impressive as we first thought.We haven’t yet played a good 60 or 80 minutes. Just 40. World Cups are about test match grind. Earning the right to go wide by winning contact, playing territory, minimising mistakes so you control your destiny. I love it when our guys play with ball in hand and move wide but that first 40 was everything you don’t want to see - shitty exits, high penalty count, binned players. So the question is what is the game plan? Because the one today isn’t the right one.
