All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel yeah but he was forced into it and it could have come off.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
A record loss is a different thing, tho
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@Stag said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
so anyone held at a ruck has the right to just reply by punching in the head, jog on…
It was mostly slaps on the back. This happens in every match.
Gamesmanship from Jacobson with a performative repsonse from the player held. The ref saw it and recognised it was nothing
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Stag said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Duluth so anyone held at a ruck has the right to just reply by punching in the head, jog on…
Their arm, yes. Head is red card, he should be cited
Back of the shoulder & middle of the back.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
The Boks did put an under done team against us in Auckland,most of that Bok team had not played since The end of the premiership months earlier.
Maybe that win was a false dawn.
Even the Argies we beat were under done had only been together a few days and had not played for months ,
Maybe we got a false hope from those performances but if you look closer it doesn’t look as impressive as we first thought. -
It changes how I look at that quarter final ,
I was thinking hope it’s SA , now it doesn’t matter , I don’t believe we start favourites in either options .
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I understand player welfare etc but I would be curious to see how many minutes each player in the squad has played since the end of super rugby. Some would have very little game time which must make it hard to be consistent when you are training for 99% of the time.
Edit: In saying that Roigard probably has very few but has been stellar in all his minutes in black so far.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
The Boks did put an under done team against us in Auckland,most of that Bok team had not played since The end of the premiership months earlier.
Maybe that win was a false dawn.
Even the Argies we beat were under done had only been together a few days and had not played for months ,
Maybe we got a false hope from those performances but if you look closer it doesn’t look as impressive as we first thought.We haven’t yet played a good 60 or 80 minutes. Just 40. World Cups are about test match grind. Earning the right to go wide by winning contact, playing territory, minimising mistakes so you control your destiny. I love it when our guys play with ball in hand and move wide but that first 40 was everything you don’t want to see - shitty exits, high penalty count, binned players. So the question is what is the game plan? Because the one today isn’t the right one.
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@KiwiMurph own goal bro
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Argentina was a statement win? SA? Good wins but hardly statements. They lost both second halves. Had an opportunity to put the wallabies to the sword in DUD but fucked around and almost found out.
So beating SA in Auckland one week after being in Argie isn't a statement win but losing to SA in Twickenham in a RWC warm up game is an example of blowing a statement win opportunity? That makes no sense.
The Boks did put an under done team against us in Auckland,most of that Bok team had not played since The end of the premiership months earlier.
Maybe that win was a false dawn.
Even the Argies we beat were under done had only been together a few days and had not played for months ,
Maybe we got a false hope from those performances but if you look closer it doesn’t look as impressive as we first thought.That's true but you could flip the script and say the same thing about the Boks for this game. ABs top team hadn't played since Melb and was a RWC warm up game and ABs spent the majority of the game at least 1 man down due to cards
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I don’t know about others, but I’m less concerned about this result than other losses. It had a bit of the Chicago match feel to it.
It’s strange because I hate losing to the Boks - my hatiest team by far.
Yeah it’s a loss and much will be made of it given its proximity to the RWC, but I don’t think it means squat. I doubt the team will be thinking about last night when they run out against France or the other pool matches.
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@ACT-Crusader it was another record under Foster. I think this shows we can't play finals footy. And Foster with such limited game time and big gaps between games, can't draw two 80 min performances together.
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