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    Larger than Donald, Farrell, Pollard etc. Is there a successful Test 10 his size anywhere in the world? The time that he has at fullback, and occasionally going into first receiver, will be different when he’s the primary option. That why I’m sceptical, plus he does not have the acceleration of every AB ten (except Donald) over the last few decades

    He’d be my starting AB fullback though

    Maybe he moves and kicks arse. Maybe it wastes time he should be at fullback

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    @Duluth many years ago, but Honiball was a big fella wasn't he? Larkham was a tall ten too compared to most of his peers.

    Someone had a theory on here while ago (@Chris-B?) that players with long limbs were prone to getting their kicks charged because they too longer to kick. It might have been during a discussion on Jordie I think.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in "Potential future No.10s for the All Blacks":

    @Duluth many years ago, but Honiball was a big fella wasn't he? Larkham was a tall ten too compared to most of his peers.

    Honiball wasn't that tall, he was physical.

    Larkham? Was tall (still 4cm shorter) but was built like a whippet. More comparable to a B Barrett shape

    Someone had a theory on here while ago (@Chris-B?) that players with long limbs were prone to getting their kicks charged because they too longer to kick. It might have been during a discussion on Jordie I think.

    Different sizes and shapes for the demands of different positions. Makes sense to me. I wouldn't trust Jordie at 10 against any serious opposition but I rate him as a 12 & 15 for similar reasons

    I feel I always have to add the note at the bottom: 'Sullivan might move and be a success'

    (Incidentally he's a pretty good chance of playing 10 next weekend but it's only MP)

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    @Duluth I know you are not writing him off as a 10 and I do agree his talent at 15 is starting to scream AB. I am not saying I am sure he will be a success at 10, but I would love him to get a decent run there to see if my suspicions are right. Fingers crossed for the weekend.

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    @george33 Is he going to choose rugby or cricket?

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    @Tim said in "Potential future No.10s for the All Blacks":

    @george33 Is he going to choose rugby or cricket?

    If you had a choice you'd go cricket wouldn't you? More opportunity to make money and less chance you'll end up a vegetable later in life.

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    Unfortunately covid meant the 2020 World Rugby U20s in Italy was cancelled and Sullivan may have been used at 1st 5. We'll never know. The wider training squad did include a number of other 10s (Reihana, Morgan, Love, Stu Cruden). He really needs to play there for Auckland first.

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    @Stargazer Versatility. He already has something of a kicking game. The solution may well be using someone from another position.

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    David Havili.

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    @Bones He has filled that role if he can perform at 10 for the Crusaders.

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    Yeehaa this helps!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131905170/damian-mckenzie-signs-new-twoyear-deal-with-chiefs-and-all-blacks

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    Damian McKenzie has just re-signed through 2025

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    @Dan54 snap

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    @Dan54 Nice.

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    Good choice gives him two years to cement that starting 10, role. If not, I'd imagine off overseas for moolah whilst still young enough

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    Very Crucial signing for 2024 no real other options.
    As I do not want to see Razor talk the NZR in to selecting overseas players,SR has enough problems without potentially our top 15 or more players out of SR.

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    Zarn Sullivan stood a few times as a first receiver against the Tahs and looked impressive there. But it was only the Tahs and I guess McDonald will keep BB as his 1st Five. I really hope he can prove his worth next year as a 1st Five.
    Interesting that nobody has mentioned Josh Ioane. He was good in the few minutes he played for the Chiefs this year, before his injury. I am not sold on his ability to control a game, though.

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    @Chris One thing that could work, would be letting URC, MLR and Japanese Top League players have the opportunity to play NPC and become eligible to play for the ABs. The argument against this is that it would open the floodgates. End of the day Super Rugby players needs to be paid more and if they can find a solution to that problem, no one would be leaving Super Rugby at the rate they are,

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    @SBW1 said in "Potential future No.10s for the All Blacks":

    Could Jordie play 10 if he could it would be one hell of a bow to his string. Just a thought.

    Jordie comes across as barely having the brains to run in the right direction. Can hardly see him being a game general despite his physical qualities

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    @cgrant Whoever takes over next year as Blues coach will certainly be after another option at 10, if Zarn can step up at 10 if given the opportunity, he could be in contention.

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