All Blacks vs Wales
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This place is beginning to sound like Keo's with all the whinging about the refereeing. Not pointing out mistakes, or issues with the rules, but the allegations that only we are being screwed over.
If it is every game -- and from some on here it is every game -- then we are the problem, not the referees.
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@Hooroo said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Did Clarke do anything correct tonight??
All I recall were dropped balls and missed tackles? Likely the most ineffective winger we have ever had in a game?
Both wings were pretty ineffective but CC had a shocker. I would prefer RI to wing and ALB to 13.
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@Daffy-Jaffy Geo-blocked in NZ
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From the Welsh match day programme.
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Wales:
This place is beginning to sound like Keo's with all the whinging about the refereeing. Not pointing out mistakes, or issues with the rules, but the allegations that only we are being screwed over.
If it is every game -- and from some on here it is every game -- then we are the problem, not the referees.
There were plenty of mistakes and people have definitely pointed them out. There was pointed criticism of BB, Clarke, Reece, Smith’s howler of a pass, our breakdown discipline, defensive pattern overall but particularly on that Welsh try, the awful lineout overthrow, Ardie’s dive almost costing a try, early ball handling, Frizell’s physicality, and loss of concentration.
So yeah, nah.
Barnes was inventing breakdown infringements for the ABs that he let Wales get away with. Fact. And despite looking multiple times at Tipuric’s ball control over the line, we waved the try through. He’s a mediocre ref.
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Must admit that was the most forward orientated performance I have seen in a long time and I have to say I loved it.
I'd love to see the stats on forward carries for the game vs the average for last few years. The pick and goes and just solid tight work laid the foundation for the pretty boys.
We had some obvious mistakes that need working on, but overall I was very happy with that.
6 is still not right IMO, looking forward to more of MMT and Gardiner, might be a bit late for them but love their workrates.
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@Stargazer Oh, it wasn't initially. Good ole vpn to the UK works.
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Lomax and de Groot going well
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@JC said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Barnes was inventing breakdown infringements for the ABs that he let Wales get away with. Fact. And despite looking multiple times at Tipuric’s ball control over the line, we waved the try through. He’s a mediocre ref.
"Fact" eh? I think you prove my case.
The whole Tipuric "not having control" is a case in point. There is no requirement that a player have control of the ball to score a try. My copy of rules even has a picture showing that a person lying on the ball has scored. The only thing that matters is was the ball propelled forward from Tipuric's hand prior to the line, and so a knock-on. That he lost control in goal is utterly irrelevant (indeed the Try Law doesn't even mention the concept of control).
So bleating about the ref being an idiot, when you don't know the rules.
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@Victor-Meldrew Cotter excellent as ever. I thought Warburton and Gatland were good co-commentators too.
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@sparky a one man backrow today as Reffell and Tips were pretty anonymous.
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Just watched replay. Some great forward muscle. Ardie was an absolute beast. Was hoping that this tour would be something of a breakthrough for Frizell (maybe similar to Kaino laying waste 2010) but he's just not very effective.
Definitely not a day for the outside backs so I'll give CC a pass despite him looking like a headless chicken with tits for hands.
Jordie was solid as furk at 12. Massive difference with him there. Doubters again consume large portion of shįt burger.
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@pooler-fan Rate them both but they took a long time to get into the game today. Tomas Williams and Rees-Zammit also looked out of sorts.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Just watched replay. Some great forward muscle. Ardie was an absolute beast. Was hoping that this tour would be something of a breakthrough for Frizell (maybe similar to Kaino laying waste 2010) but he's just not very effective.
Definitely not a day for the outside backs so I'll give CC a pass despite him looking like a headless chicken with tits for hands.
Jordie was solid as furk at 12. Massive difference with him there. Doubters again consume large portion of shįt burger.
Beaudy was rocks and diamonds to, charge down versus one handed pick up
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Just watching now. First exit and another box kick that we can't recover, put us on the back foot straight away. Why do we persist with them over a decent touch finder?
We recovered the second one but the result was far better when JB and RM belted the ball deep
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Just watched replay. Some great forward muscle. Ardie was an absolute beast. Was hoping that this tour would be something of a breakthrough for Frizell (maybe similar to Kaino laying waste 2010) but he's just not very effective.
Definitely not a day for the outside backs so I'll give CC a pass despite him looking like a headless chicken with tits for hands.
Jordie was solid as furk at 12. Massive difference with him there. Doubters again consume large portion of shįt burger.
Beaudy was rocks and diamonds to, charge down versus one handed pick up
That charge down was ugly. He needs to give RM a hj for saving his arse. I'm liking the balance though. They're getting there.
What I didn't like was the first half tactic of Smith doing that box kick following every restart. It was completely ineffective and only served to give the Welsh the ball back in decent field position. Either put the fůcker out or ram it down field.
