Bledisloe 1
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
Sami needs to perform against England at twickenham not Argentina in Hamilton to start getting some recognition.
Waaaait a miiiinute....how did Ardie go against England at Twickenham?
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell @game_film he's a phenomenal player. But the reality is if you select him, you have to compromise elsewhere in your loose forward trio.
You're welcome to your opinion, and I think Ardie is awesome, but would he be the best 8 in world rugby?
Edit: for me it's a bit like recognizing BB's incredible physical talents, but that he may not be the best 10 while being one of the best rugby players
As I’ve already posted I’d probably have him at 7. But ask fans from elsewhere which AB they could have and you’ll mostly get one of 2 replies: savea or r ioane. Maybe a few for Jordan, a few for whitelock and a few for b Barrett. You won’t get papalii, akira, cane or frizzell.
Sami needs to perform against England at twickenham not Argentina in Hamilton to start getting some recognition.
Samisoni has played against Argentina but also Australia S Africa Ireland and France!
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell @game_film he's a phenomenal player. But the reality is if you select him, you have to compromise elsewhere in your loose forward trio.
You're welcome to your opinion, and I think Ardie is awesome, but would he be the best 8 in world rugby?
Edit: for me it's a bit like recognizing BB's incredible physical talents, but that he may not be the best 10 while being one of the best rugby players
As I’ve already posted I’d probably have him at 7. But ask fans from elsewhere which AB they could have and you’ll mostly get one of 2 replies: savea or r ioane. Maybe a few for Jordan, a few for whitelock and a few for b Barrett. You won’t get papalii, akira, cane or frizzell.
Sami needs to perform against England at twickenham not Argentina in Hamilton to start getting some recognition.
Papalii, A Ioane and Frizz aren't even confirmed 1st choice starters for us, let alone a world XV. Go back not too far and every team would want a Whitelock, Retallick, Smith, BB before Savea. He's not a patch on our great loosies i.e. Mccaw, Jones, Zinzan etc, and also not a great role player like a Kaino or Collins. I also don't think he's that influential in games. He's a great Savea, and maybe at 7 with some more grunt at 6 and 8 he would be a more influential player, as he certainly has some unique ability. To me in the ABs he looks like a standout in a losing team, but I'm not totally convinced that he's not a part of the reason it's a losing team.
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@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell @game_film he's a phenomenal player. But the reality is if you select him, you have to compromise elsewhere in your loose forward trio.
You're welcome to your opinion, and I think Ardie is awesome, but would he be the best 8 in world rugby?
Edit: for me it's a bit like recognizing BB's incredible physical talents, but that he may not be the best 10 while being one of the best rugby players
As I’ve already posted I’d probably have him at 7. But ask fans from elsewhere which AB they could have and you’ll mostly get one of 2 replies: savea or r ioane. Maybe a few for Jordan, a few for whitelock and a few for b Barrett. You won’t get papalii, akira, cane or frizzell.
Sami needs to perform against England at twickenham not Argentina in Hamilton to start getting some recognition.
Samisoni has played against Argentina but also Australia S Africa Ireland and France!
He fucking monstered the French when he came on, they didn't know what had hit them!
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
Sami needs to perform against England at twickenham not Argentina in Hamilton to start getting some recognition.
What about the Boks at Ellis Park? Tick.
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell @game_film he's a phenomenal player. But the reality is if you select him, you have to compromise elsewhere in your loose forward trio.
You're welcome to your opinion, and I think Ardie is awesome, but would he be the best 8 in world rugby?
Edit: for me it's a bit like recognizing BB's incredible physical talents, but that he may not be the best 10 while being one of the best rugby players
Sami needs to perform against England at twickenham not Argentina in Hamilton to start getting some recognition.
we really cant win, games like the puma in hamilton are too important to experiment with, have to play our best players....but not important enough for any recognition
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell @game_film he's a phenomenal player. But the reality is if you select him, you have to compromise elsewhere in your loose forward trio.
You're welcome to your opinion, and I think Ardie is awesome, but would he be the best 8 in world rugby?
Edit: for me it's a bit like recognizing BB's incredible physical talents, but that he may not be the best 10 while being one of the best rugby players
Sami needs to perform against England at twickenham not Argentina in Hamilton to start getting some recognition.
we really cant win, games like the puma in hamilton are too important to experiment with, have to play our best players....but not important enough for any recognition
It’s about building experience for Sami though. He’s a relative unknown right now.
Just on the Argies, one could argue that their consistent inconsistency is a reason results are sometimes passed by. Over the last two years, including last weekend they have played 18 tests - won 7, lost 10 and drawn 1.
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Kurtley Beale returns to Wallabies squad ahead of Bledisloe Tests against All Blacks
Australia coach Dave Rennie has continued to look to proven campaigners to supplement younger talent in naming his squad for the Bledisloe Tests
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@Machpants oh boy we are saved.
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@reprobate said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell @game_film he's a phenomenal player. But the reality is if you select him, you have to compromise elsewhere in your loose forward trio.
You're welcome to your opinion, and I think Ardie is awesome, but would he be the best 8 in world rugby?
Edit: for me it's a bit like recognizing BB's incredible physical talents, but that he may not be the best 10 while being one of the best rugby players
As I’ve already posted I’d probably have him at 7. But ask fans from elsewhere which AB they could have and you’ll mostly get one of 2 replies: savea or r ioane. Maybe a few for Jordan, a few for whitelock and a few for b Barrett. You won’t get papalii, akira, cane or frizzell.
Sami needs to perform against England at twickenham not Argentina in Hamilton to start getting some recognition.
Papalii, A Ioane and Frizz aren't even confirmed 1st choice starters for us, let alone a world XV. Go back not too far and every team would want a Whitelock, Retallick, Smith, BB before Savea. He's not a patch on our great loosies i.e. Mccaw, Jones, Zinzan etc, and also not a great role player like a Kaino or Collins. I also don't think he's that influential in games. He's a great Savea, and maybe at 7 with some more grunt at 6 and 8 he would be a more influential player, as he certainly has some unique ability. To me in the ABs he looks like a standout in a losing team, but I'm not totally convinced that he's not a part of the reason it's a losing team.
At this stage, Ardie’s best position for AB’s is 8. Otherwise Cane goes to the bench and it’s unlike to happen under Foster. Ardie’s ball skills are top notch, ball in hand great, can get over the ball, defensively he’s adequate.
As long as we can rotate a big 6 like Frizell/Barrett in versus the Boks/England & bring Akira on for Wallabies etc our back row mix is solid for RWC.
Given it’s the Wallabies - Cane, Sotutu & Akira is going to work really well. I’m looking forward to seeing them operate. I’d bring Papali’i on a lot earlier to give Cane a breather, maybe even at 50min mark depending on how we’re tracking.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
A minute's silence for Willie I would think.
That will probably happen at the RWC 7s. Armbands for the tournament I would think.
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@Daffy-Jaffy Strong attention to detail in the coaching group when one of the players had to tell them that Marvel Stadium has a roof.......
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
@Daffy-Jaffy Strong attention to detail in the coaching group when one of the players had to tell them that Marvel Stadium has a roof.......
I am just imagining the forward thinking how the fuck do the coaches not know it has a roof as they start to plan for wet weather rugby. Fuck me.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 1:
A minute's silence for Willie I would think.
And someone else whose name escapes me
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Is this game on a Thursday?? I might be wrong but the last midweek test against Aussie I can recall was Jeff Wilson vs Gregan. Pretty sure that was midweek.
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
Is this game on a Thursday?? I might be wrong but the last midweek test against Aussie I can recall was Jeff Wilson vs Gregan. Pretty sure that was midweek.
Yes it's on Thursday
