Red Cards
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@MiketheSnow said in Red Cards:
I read somewhere that around 65% of concussions where actually on the tackler and not the person being tackled. So, by trying to get players to go lower are we actually placing the tackler at higher risk?
With the vast majority of that 65% being shit tackling technique
It's an interesting point isn't it. These players are all professionals and have been for years.
They train almost daily and have more data and coaches then they have ever had. They all must have been coached the proper technique, yet they still fuck it up on a consistent basis.
This tells me they are human, and they play a very fast physical game were dominant tackles win games.
We watch slowmo after slowmo criticising the players. I bet down on the ground the margins for error are pretty slim and it is a lot harder to get right then we think. -
@MiketheSnow said in Red Cards:
I read somewhere that around 65% of concussions where actually on the tackler and not the person being tackled. So, by trying to get players to go lower are we actually placing the tackler at higher risk?
With the vast majority of that 65% being shit tackling technique
It's an interesting point isn't it. These players are all professionals and have been for years.
They train almost daily and have more data and coaches then they have ever had. They all must have been coached the proper technique, yet they still fuck it up on a consistent basis.
This tells me they are human, and they play a very fast physical game were dominant tackles win games.
We watch slowmo after slowmo criticising the players. I bet down on the ground the margins for error are pretty slim and it is a lot harder to get right then we think.Perhaps the risk/reward of dominant tackles no longer makes it a 'winning' strategy.
The coaches and players who change their game quickest may well reap the rewards.
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@MiketheSnow said in Red Cards:
I read somewhere that around 65% of concussions where actually on the tackler and not the person being tackled. So, by trying to get players to go lower are we actually placing the tackler at higher risk?
With the vast majority of that 65% being shit tackling technique
It's an interesting point isn't it. These players are all professionals and have been for years.
They train almost daily and have more data and coaches then they have ever had. They all must have been coached the proper technique, yet they still fuck it up on a consistent basis.
This tells me they are human, and they play a very fast physical game were dominant tackles win games.
We watch slowmo after slowmo criticising the players. I bet down on the ground the margins for error are pretty slim and it is a lot harder to get right then we think.Or maybe what we think is good technique is not the technique that is being coached?
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Further replays seemed to indicate Chiefs teammate Angus Ta'avao assisted Cane's body going over the horizontal and contributed to the dangerous nature. After reviewing the incident, SANZAAR's Judiciary has confirmed 'the significant involvement of other players contributed to the incident', deeming it did not meet the red card threshold. -
FFS.... This is more bullshit...
This just makes it even more confusing for the on-field ref and TMO doesn't it, like what the fuck is a red card and what isn't. That was clear driving him headfirst into the turf. Just another reason that we need a report system as clearly the panel are the experts and they should decide after the game and not ruin the actual game by reducing teams to 13 or 14 players.
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Finau’s RC decided to be incorrect
10:40 in
What really annoys me about this is that both the ref and TMO decided he was “always high” which is clear nonsense. He is bent at the waist almost parallel to the ground. Also no consideration that the ball carrier clearly lowers his head height and “ducks”
Ref then treats the captain like a naughty kid with a little come here lecture.
Hope there was an apology.Clear camera work, clear mitigation, bad decision making with lots of time to get it right.
These are the ones you fear in a big match.
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@Crucial and this is where I think there has to be another way to deal with these, rugby is keen on other things league does, use thier report system.
That way, it takes the pressure off the refs to make those big calls, right or wrong and can be dealt with at a better time without time restraints of keeping the game going and having to base it on slow motion on a big screen.
Do they involve the ref in these hearings as well?
I know some will use the argument that teams will use it as a reasons to take someone out if there isnt sufficient penalty, but for my mind, at NPC and above, I think there is sufficient punishment if a visit to the judiciary, weeks off and possibly a financial penalty to both the player (relative to salary) and the team would be deterrent enough.
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Finau’s RC decided to be incorrect
10:40 in
What really annoys me about this is that both the ref and TMO decided he was “always high” which is clear nonsense. He is bent at the waist almost parallel to the ground. Also no consideration that the ball carrier clearly lowers his head height and “ducks”
Ref then treats the captain like a naughty kid with a little come here lecture.
Hope there was an apology.Clear camera work, clear mitigation, bad decision making with lots of time to get it right.
These are the ones you fear in a big match.
Poor chap
Even with the ‘outrageous’ jink from the ball carrier he only had a 1.5m hit zone and yet still managed to hit him head first.He took the risk of a body and all tackle, it failed, YC.
I just don’t understand the debate.
