All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Our tight 5 is not as good as the Boks 5. Work to do
Our tight five was 100 times worse when our subs came on.
Yup. Our forwards just aren't there right now. Lots of young guys, a few past their best. And they put it all together tonight
We need Whitelock and cane back and hope next Super Rugby season some young tight fives with mongrel turn up.
And the guys that are there need to raise their level
Can they ?,thats what worries me.
It's up to Foster to work that out
That is why I am worried.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Havili/ALB midfield lacks a ball carrier. We really could do with a physical 12.
Definitely lacked penetration
To me ALB and Havili are the same type of player. Not the ideal partnership.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
How the fuck was it Moungas fault, He had no control with TJ barking shit from
The base .He needed to demand the ball from that ruck and TJP give it to him. As I said play territory and kick into the corner with time nearly up. You know, like in the 2015 RWC SF.
FFS yeah blame the guy who was on for 15 minutes not the Fuck wits who played most of the game.
Mo'unga isn't the reason we lost, not in a million years, but the fact is a player like DC would have taken control of that last 15. Mo'unga didn't. We don't have a world class 10 at the moment and it hurts us in tight games like this.
I'll give him a pass. He hasn't played for weeks. It was ridiculous throwing him in then and expecting him save the game. That BB kick broke me btw. That was instant replacement bad.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
How the fuck was it Moungas fault, He had no control with TJ barking shit from
The base .He needed to demand the ball from that ruck and TJP give it to him. As I said play territory and kick into the corner with time nearly up. You know, like in the 2015 RWC SF.
FFS yeah blame the guy who was on for 15 minutes not the Fuck wits who played most of the game.
Mo'unga isn't the reason we lost, not in a million years, but the fact is a player like DC would have taken control of that last 15. Mo'unga didn't. We don't have a world class 10 at the moment and it hurts us in tight games like this.
I'll give him a pass. He hasn't played for weeks. It was ridiculous throwing him in then and expecting him save the game. That BB kick broke me btw. That was instant replacement bad.
Yep fair call.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Havili/ALB midfield lacks a ball carrier. We really could do with a physical 12.
Definitely lacked penetration
To me ALB and Havili are the same type of player. Not the ideal partnership.
Laumape couldn't nail it down. We need to find that power player
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Havili/ALB midfield lacks a ball carrier. We really could do with a physical 12.
Havili is simply not a top class 12. He's done ok but he's not a long-term solution.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Havili/ALB midfield lacks a ball carrier. We really could do with a physical 12.
Definitely lacked penetration
To me ALB and Havili are the same type of player. Not the ideal partnership.
Laumape couldn't nail it down. We need to find that power player
Fainganuku
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Terrific display by Boks forwards. Their lineout was the winning of the game. But I thought a few of our guys were well off their game. Thought Akira was missing for the tackle or clean out quite a few times so was quite surprised they took Jacobson off as he seemed more accurate and involved. Felt that was a tactical error. Neither of our hookers had a happy match either. Savea very competitive but I felt he could have imposed himself more on the ref. And poor tactical call not to kick to the corner when time nearly up.
Has Beauden's punting length and accuracy dropped off a bit? Weber gave him great service tonite so no excuses there. He and Reece were pretty good and constructive.
Anyways Bok reserve front row locks and loosies won them the match. And we shot ourselves in the foot with lineout errors and catch and pass inaccuracies. Congrats SA -
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Havili/ALB midfield lacks a ball carrier. We really could do with a physical 12.
Definitely lacked penetration
To me ALB and Havili are the same type of player. Not the ideal partnership.
Laumape couldn't nail it down. We need to find that power player
The thing with ALB and Havili is they both like to run sideways to find space. You add DMAC to that combination and good luck to the loose forwards.
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Biggest disappointment for me over these last 2 tests has been the round the field work of our props or lack of , when you compare it to the boks despite them slowing it down , even the Wallabies props against the boks were more prominent.
Our wingers in the main over the 2 tests did not provide the impact I thought they would ..
One guy who despite playing against the Boks for the first time whom I thought was very good was Ethan Blackadder..
Special mention for Archie Savea in terms of his toughness, but his captaincy I thought at times was poor .
The one player who cemented his spot moving forward was Jordie Barrett, our best player over the 2 tests in my opinion ..
Not much else to say but a deserved win to the Boks -
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Havili/ALB midfield lacks a ball carrier. We really could do with a physical 12.
Definitely lacked penetration
To me ALB and Havili are the same type of player. Not the ideal partnership.
Laumape couldn't nail it down. We need to find that power player
Also if you have selected those players you probably needed to have a different play book for Boks.
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@rancid-schnitzel Bullshit! Was wondering which direction the usual crap was going to go. Boks won on a better forward pack. Get over it.
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@rancid-schnitzel Bullshit! Was wondering which direction the usual crap was going to go. Boks won on a better forward pack. Get over it.
Um what? What part offended you so much?
Seriously dude. I just wrote on the best player thread that we were beaten up. -
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Set piece poor again.
Set piece was bad again. Retallick and Taylor not in great form. Not convinced by Bower & Laulala around the field. Plus Ofa hasn’t returned from injury very well
Not too worried about things like the midfield etc. A lot of the other issues flow on from the tight five.
Looking forward to Whitelock getting back
