All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug
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I am pretty pleased with this line up, considering Jordan is injured. I am just a bit mitigated about Bower, for the same reasons many of you have pointed out. I don't think he will travel to France in 2023 so his selection is rather odd as it would have been a good occasion to test De Groot against a solid opposition.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
That team is going to fucking spank us. Where is Jordie on the wing? Akira Ioane at 6? Brodie Retallick back.
Ballsacks.
Alright @Derpus what are we going down by? Auckland will be overcast and dry (for Auckland) around 13C at kickoff.
I'll say ABs 53-12 Wobs.
Oh fuck off
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You’re just encouraging him.54-10 now 😬
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan who should be on the wing then?
Ioane at 11, if fit Jordan on the right. With Jordan injured I would try DMac on the wing, he’s pretty creative and could make a difference there. Certainly fast enough and a good finisher.
I’d have BB at 15, then JB if his brother really doesn’t want to play there anymore. But seeing as RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11, is that really a factor in selection?
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Damien is simply not good enough at test-level; runs sideways; gets rag-dolled and opposition love to see his name on the team-list.
McKenzie is not an international fullback full-stop, he's too short, too lightweight and looses the ball in the collision far too often. And he constantly gets isolated, as he often runs away from his support players.
Play him against tier-two opponents and he looks a million dollars, play him against big imposing physical sides and he'll get flattened, time and again.
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.
that's the one highlight.
made errors, complete non-entity on attack.
we lack a great fullback.
One kick out on the full, 3 turnovers conceded, and 11 total metres (2nd worst back by metres, I think).
He did apparently beat two defenders and get away one offload, plus that fantastic chase and tackle, but overall he was poor in his contributions.
Thanks for backing up the sentiment. The match thread didn’t seem to be too worried at the time.
As I said I didn’t recall him having a horror so was trying to understand the comment that he played himself out of the team.
To be honest though it wasn’t a game made for him. All of our tries were scored from 15 metres out. Just watched the highlights tape and in Reece’s second DMac drew two defenders to leave Sevu unmarked. In Jordan’s try he was running a second hole in case Jordan’s run didn’t get through and in the build up to another he took us from a static position to a metre out stepping through two defenders.
I agree that the position is still debatable just don’t see him as the worst option.But it's DMac, of course he he was shit because DMac.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan who should be on the wing then?
Ioane at 11, if fit Jordan on the right. With Jordan injured I would try DMac on the wing, he’s pretty creative and could make a difference there. Certainly fast enough and a good finisher.
I’d have BB at 15, then JB if his brother really doesn’t want to play there anymore. But seeing as RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11, is that really a factor in selection?
Sounds like your issue is more with 15 then? I'd much rather have a proven winger on the wing than a guy who can be pretty mercurial in positions he has actually played before.
Australia aren't Fiji or Tonga.
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@daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
To get you in the zone -
one thing that is really noticeable, at the start of the vid the crowd are wearing their normal clothes, by the end the majority are in black.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.
that's the one highlight.
made errors, complete non-entity on attack.
we lack a great fullback.
One kick out on the full, 3 turnovers conceded, and 11 total metres (2nd worst back by metres, I think).
He did apparently beat two defenders and get away one offload, plus that fantastic chase and tackle, but overall he was poor in his contributions.
Thanks for backing up the sentiment. The match thread didn’t seem to be too worried at the time.
As I said I didn’t recall him having a horror so was trying to understand the comment that he played himself out of the team.
To be honest though it wasn’t a game made for him. All of our tries were scored from 15 metres out. Just watched the highlights tape and in Reece’s second DMac drew two defenders to leave Sevu unmarked. In Jordan’s try he was running a second hole in case Jordan’s run didn’t get through and in the build up to another he took us from a static position to a metre out stepping through two defenders.
I agree that the position is still debatable just don’t see him as the worst option.But it's DMac, of course he he was shit because DMac.
Having fun with this little crusade you're on?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.
that's the one highlight.
made errors, complete non-entity on attack.
we lack a great fullback.
One kick out on the full, 3 turnovers conceded, and 11 total metres (2nd worst back by metres, I think).
He did apparently beat two defenders and get away one offload, plus that fantastic chase and tackle, but overall he was poor in his contributions.
Thanks for backing up the sentiment. The match thread didn’t seem to be too worried at the time.
As I said I didn’t recall him having a horror so was trying to understand the comment that he played himself out of the team.
To be honest though it wasn’t a game made for him. All of our tries were scored from 15 metres out. Just watched the highlights tape and in Reece’s second DMac drew two defenders to leave Sevu unmarked. In Jordan’s try he was running a second hole in case Jordan’s run didn’t get through and in the build up to another he took us from a static position to a metre out stepping through two defenders.
I agree that the position is still debatable just don’t see him as the worst option.But it's DMac, of course he he was shit because DMac.
Having fun with this little crusade you're on?
Aren't you the guy that doesn't watch rugby? 😁
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Until one 15 really stands out he’s in the mix.
That's the issue. There is no stand out.
I think the best fullback in the AB squad is on the bench and his name doesn’t start with Jordie.
But Beaudie is still working his way into some kind of form, but in terms of skill set and ability, he is class at the back.
Could Will Jordan be our future at fullback. Needs to develop and mature his game a bit, but more game time on the wing will definitely help as it did with Bender.
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Pretty happy with this team selection
D Mac
worked well with Mounga as a dual
Play maker. I think that’s a big reason for his selection.In that last test it was Mo'unga and Havili sharing the playmaking roles and on my view that was far more effective than DMac playing in that role.
In saying that, B. Barrett and DMac used to work well in the 10/15 roles pre-RWC.
DMac’s shining knights are out in force aye! I don’t mind him and his fearlessness is something else, but he stunk the house out last match and that has been a problem the last two seasons.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Pretty happy with this team selection
D Mac
worked well with Mounga as a dual
Play maker. I think that’s a big reason for his selection.In that last test it was Mo'unga and Havili sharing the playmaking roles and on my view that was far more effective than DMac playing in that role.
In saying that, B. Barrett and DMac used to work well in the 10/15 roles pre-RWC.
DMac’s shining knights are out in force aye! I don’t mind him and his fearlessness is something else, but he stunk the house out last match and that has been a problem the last two seasons.
I am not convinced by him either,I was really thinking back to the Tongan test,
Were D Mac was the other playmaker with Ritchie,
Havilli wasn’t playing .
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Not a lot to be unhappy about for me.
Yeah. The cupboard at 6/7/8 look pretty full of talent at the moment. Ironically, that probably makes the decision for those slots quite difficult.
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
The counter to that is elusiveness.
His defence is pretty special as well. He was seriously impressive against England in 2018 and his lack of size doesn't appear to be a handicap in that department.
For me, he's too good a player to leave out but the biggest problem is knowing what is his best position. I think I'd have him as No. 1 super-sub and back-up 10 and 15.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Play him against tier-two opponents and he looks a million dollars, play him against big imposing physical sides and he'll get flattened, time and again.
I guess the England team I saw at Twickenham in 2018 were all midgets then....
