Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November
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Gregor Paul’s take is good:
“What’s now beyond dispute is that the All Blacks have an endemic problem with discipline.”
Gregor Paul on Tri Nations rugby: Outclassed All Blacks got nowhere near Argentina
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12381951 -
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@Tim said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@JC The performance was so flat that I can't even bother getting mad. I just feel tired instead.
Perfect summary, mate.
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@Gunner said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
So what’s Foster gonna do now?
Dunno but calling Ghostbusters isn't going to help. Not that it hasn't crossed his mind.
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Pathetic. Lomax outplayed on starting debut, Coles stupid then Taylor shit lineouts. Moody okay I guess, bit flat. Pat a bit flat too. Whitelock tried hard in a well beaten pack. Cane looks a bit knackered. Savea is, again, a lightweight against big teams playing fast defence and makes no impact. He should have been subbed rather than Frizzel, at least then we would have had someone make a few more tackles and hit some rucks. And you'd also be leaving on the guy who just had a rest, and taking off the guy who hasn't. Sotutu tried hard once on, a couple of good runs and had the skip pass execution been on - as it usually is - we'd have been in with a chance. Vaai went okay too.
In the backs, just anonymous, the lot of them. It almost seems like it might be an NZR directive to have Goodhue play 12 at the crusaders, trying to develop a combination with mo'unga, and foster is sticking to that... unfortunately it is wrong. goodhue is a gun at centre, and he's being wasted.
as for refusing to bring webber on for the hopeless TJ last week, then dragging smith early... christ, make up your mind.i guess this is what you get when you pick a coach who has never won anything. It was good to hear JK, another coach who hasn't won anything, get stuck in a bit. At least when JK couldn't coach for shit what he got was sacked, rather than promoted to the ABs job.
Well done Argentina, thoroughly deserved. Nico Sanchez runs a bit hot and cold, but when he's on, he really is world class. Combine that with 14 blokes tackling their arses off and it's a good recipe - that was a hell of a defensive effort.
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Have to ask the question if SRA is actually good for us. Yes our players look like a million bucks in it but they are generally up against passive defences and the physicality is a big step down from what we experienced today. Maybe not playing the saffers and Argies at SR isn't great prep for Test Rugby.
Or it could just be possibly the biggest off day we have had in decades.
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@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Have to ask the question if SRA is actually good for us. Yes our players look like a million bucks in it but they are generally up against passive defences and the physicality is a big step down from what we experienced today. Maybe not playing the saffers and Argies at SR isn't great prep for Test Rugby.
Or it could just be possibly the biggest off day we have had in decades.
Overthinking it.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
That looked like a team that was poorly coached and poorly prepared.
It's the mental attitude and senior player leadership which seems the problem for me and that's been going downhill for several years.
And I'm not sure if Foster is the one to sort that out.
Maybe, but there is also no structure or cohesion. The backline is a joke. Wtf was that move with JB?
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The penalty against Jordie for the ‘no arms charge down’ is an absolute joke.
God that’s a shocking call!
They’ve gotta play these ‘foul play’ replays at full speed, you could find an offence in every contact if you slow it down enough.
Gardner = fluffybunny
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
That looked like a team that was poorly coached and poorly prepared.
It's the mental attitude and senior player leadership which seems the problem for me and that's been going downhill for several years.
And I'm not sure if Foster is the one to sort that out.
Maybe, but there is also no structure or cohesion. The backline is a joke. Wtf was that move with JB?
Can understand a lack of structure and cohesion at times if there's a new game plan being developed.
I just don't see a game plan being developed...
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@Gunner said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
The penalty against Jordie for the ‘no arms charge down’ is an absolute joke.
God that’s a shocking call!
They’ve gotta play these ‘foul play’ replays at full speed, you could find an offence in every contact if you slow it down enough.
Gardner = fluffybunny
That was very poor, but they did miss the clear tackle in the air BB made and we got away with it. I think we would have lost with any referee today.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
That looked like a team that was poorly coached and poorly prepared.
It's the mental attitude and senior player leadership which seems the problem for me and that's been going downhill for several years.
And I'm not sure if Foster is the one to sort that out.
Maybe, but there is also no structure or cohesion. The backline is a joke. Wtf was that move with JB?
Can understand a lack of structure and cohesion at times if there's a new game plan being developed.
I just don't see a game plan being developed...
JB aimless kicks down the middle really confuse me, surely that is not a tactic.
