RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales
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@booboo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Not to mention 1903 and 1935.
Deans scored in 1905.
1935 was probbly fake news.
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The 1953 Wales win was the subject of one of the best sports books I've ever read - Dragons & All Blacks.
Highly, highly recommended.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@booboo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Not to mention 1903 and 1935.
Deans scored in 1905.
1935 was probbly fake news.
1905 d'oh.
1935 was one of the least successful All Black teams (lost two tests on tour) but captained by my Mum's uncle.
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Jack Manchester?
They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's
Didn't they lose to England as well?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Jack Manchester?
They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's
Didn't they lose to England as well?
Obolensky's match I think?
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@Catogrande Ahh, so England are the instigators of poaching then. At least they have set a high level, a Prince no less. Still I'll settle for a Tokoroa Matai or a possible Nadi Ratu.
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Perhaps RWC Mickey Mouse Final is an apt thread title name for this thread as well?
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You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
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@Nepia why would Cane be a risk?
TBF, a few players like Crotty, Ioane and BFA, havent played for almost a month!
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia why would Cane be a risk?
Because he should have started last week.
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@Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...
We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!
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@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.
Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...
We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!
Risk to Hansen's reputation ... not to the game.
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@Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?
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@Chris-B said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.
Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.
I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.
Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.
Id be happy with that side, those players leaving deserve a fitting farewell.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?
I don't know, I haven't watched any press conferences.
Dragons and All Blacks: Wales v. New Zealand - 1953 and a Century of Rivalry: Amazon.co.uk: Richards, Huw: 9781840189285: Books
