RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales

Nepia

So the team is named today right?

Does Hansen risk (his reputation) starting Cane and Rieko?

Siam

No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week 😀

Hooroo

@Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week 😀

They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care

chimoaus

You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

taniwharugby

@Nepia why would Cane be a risk?

TBF, a few players like Crotty, Ioane and BFA, havent played for almost a month!

Nepia

@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

@Nepia why would Cane be a risk?

Because he should have started last week.

taniwharugby

@Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...

We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!

Chris B.

@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.

Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.

Nepia

@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

@Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...

We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!

Risk to Hansen's reputation ... not to the game.

taniwharugby

@Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?

chimoaus

@Chris-B said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

@chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.

Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.

Id be happy with that side, those players leaving deserve a fitting farewell.

Nepia

@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

@Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?

I don't know, I haven't watched any press conferences.

taniwharugby

My 15:
Moody, Coles, Laulala
Whitelock, SB
Frizzel, Read, Cane
Smith, Mounga
ALB, Goodhue
Ioane, BB, BFA

Hopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.

Chris B.

@chimoaus I'd be starting Moody and Laulala - Todd for Frizell (assuming Ardie is injured) and Aaron Smith. Ben Smith and possibly one of the midfielders on the bench.

Worst possible farewell would be to lose this game.

Hooroo

@taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

My 15:
Moody, Coles, Laulala
Whitelock, SB
Frizzel, Read, Cane
Smith, Mounga
ALB, Goodhue
Ioane, BB, BFA

Hopefully we revert to the tactics that we were playing v Ireland instead of the ones v England.

With Retallick getting all of next year off, I hope he starts

taniwharugby

@Hooroo he probably will, thats who I would start...

mariner4life

@Hooroo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

@Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week 😀

They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care

it's fucking Derby day!!!

booboo

@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

Jack Manchester?

They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's

Didn't they lose to England as well?

That's him.

pakman

Trying to combine send offs, with giving squad a run and wanting a performance I'd like to see:

Moody/Coles/Laulala/BBBR/Barrett (S)/Cane(assuming Todd not 100%)/Frizell/Read/Weber/Mo'unga/SBW/Crotty/Ioane/Bender/BB with bench of Moli/Coltman/Ta'avao/Patty T/Todd/TJP/Goodhue/Bridge

Machpants

The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

Joe Moody (44)
Dane Coles (68)
Nepo Laulala (24)
Brodie Retallick (80)
Scott Barrett (35)
Shannon Frizell (8)
Sam Cane (67)
Kieran Read - captain (126)
Aaron Smith (91)
Richie Mo’unga (16)
Rieko Ioane (28)
Sonny Bill Williams (56)
Ryan Crotty (47)
Ben Smith (83)
Beauden Barrett (82)
Liam Coltman (7)
Atu Moli (7)
Angus Ta'avao (13)
Patrick Tuipulotu (29)
Matt Todd (24)
Brad Weber (4)
Anton Lienert-Brown (41)
Jordie Barrett (16)

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RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales