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@Machpants said in Hansen:
I think this one sums up the salient points
When you look at those players , you get a feeling of trust that you dont quite get from the current side , they may end up getting there ,
You can add Kaino , Owen franks, Ben Smith to that group in that photo , and we lost ( team that took the field ) an irreplaceable amount of experience in 4 years
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Hansen:
All said and done the loss of Ritchie/Jerome/Dan and Ma'a was always going to be huge
There really does seem to a bit of an air-brushing out of Conrad Smith on the Fern these days.
He was one of the very best 13's NZ have ever had.
Really? I always thought Snake was very highly regarded here? He's in the best AB centre ever conversation, and he and Ma'a are the best AB midfield ever bar none. Our senior player group was gutted after 2015, and Hansen almost pulled off a RWC win with a transitional team
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Hansen:
All said and done the loss of Ritchie/Jerome/Dan and Ma'a was always going to be huge
There really does seem to a bit of an air-brushing out of Conrad Smith on the Fern these days.
He was one of the very best 13's NZ have ever had.
Really? I always thought Snake was very highly regarded here? He's in the best AB centre ever conversation, and he and Ma'a are the best AB midfield ever bar none. Our senior player group was gutted after 2015, and Hansen almost pulled off a RWC win with a transitional team
My comment was a bit tongue in cheek. Just noticed he hardly ever gets the same mention that the like of Ma'a and DC do
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First and second losses to Ireland were poor but at least they were a reflection of their level and ranking, which they had never reached in their history. Hell, they were the number one ranked side going into to RWC, which in combination with recent history explains why we 'played our final' against them in the quarter.
Lions series was a silly red card (which the fact a forward was subbed instead of a back was a bit strange, but we still could have won the game which is remarkable) and/or a non call by a filthy, cowardly frog away from a won series.
England game was bizarre. We didn't seem to ever get to out of 2nd gear, mainly due to how they played but have to wonder how much psychology and selections affected our performance. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. At the end of the day we lost a lot of legends at the end of 2015 that were replaced with players that were too green and probably never will never be at the level of their predecessors.
Make no mistake, SA wanted desperately wanted to win the pool game and didn't, then were flat against Wales. There will be a bit of history written about this SA side because they dominated the England side that dominated us - and fair play as they got up when it really counted - but they aren't head and shoulders above any other team. Perhaps their style was simply a better match for England.
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@Machpants said in Hansen:
Can't wait for next Bok game, 100th test and World No 1 ranking on the line! Brand new coaches, we'll have a fresh team and Boks will have a ton of changes too
My bet it will be in SA just to make it more interesting.
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@Machpants said in Hansen:
Can't wait for next Bok game, 100th test and World No 1 ranking on the line! Brand new coaches, we'll have a fresh team and Boks will have a ton of changes too
My bet it will be in SA just to make it more interesting.
Hard to say, the RC has been Boks here first. But changes may well be coming - Japan etc
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Wales online did an interview with Hansen on his Wales years - it's a good read.
The Steve Hansen interview: My Wales years, the self-interest we faced and the day I was told I'd be sacked if we lost | Wales Online
In the first part of an exclusive interview, the coach who conquered the rugby world talks about everything that happened during his time in Wales
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@Tim do they usually issue apologies for referee errors?
They didnt issue an apology to Benjamin Fall when they threw Gardner under the bus did they? Given that, on the surface to wipe out a Red Card, was supposedly a huge ref blunder....
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@taniwharugby said in Hansen:
@Tim do they usually issue apologies for referee errors?
I don't think so - sets a precedent. The ABs got an apology for the TMO not following protocol in the game below but that was a unique situation (hometown TMO).
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@taniwharugby said in Hansen:
@Tim do they usually issue apologies for referee errors?
I don't think so - sets a precedent. The ABs got an apology for the TMO not following protocol in the game below but that was a unique situation (hometown TMO).
I recall some sort of admission one time after Wyatt Crockett was incorrectly penalised a number of times v Italy when Castrogiovanni looked a million lira but was the transgressor
