Pumas vs All Blacks
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No Quarter said:
We've made way too many errors to be content with this performance - lots to work on - but this is a great win in trying conditions against a fired up Argie side, not even mentioning some truly bizzare reffing. Character building for a lot of the younger guys.
Absolutely agree. Ref kept Argie in it through that second half, with some head-scratching decisions. Shag and co won't be happy with the error rate and penalties coughed up.
But good work from Ardie and much better from BB. No question of who our top team is, but we are exposing new players to the cauldron of test footy, and building some real depth in doing so. -
Scrappy game but Hansen will be happy with the new/less experienced players performance. Pretty good for a scratch set of forwards. Depth building nicey
Savea MoM for me - outstanding. Ofa, Cane and Karl T also impressive. Gold medal for Crotty for avoiding concussion
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hydro11 said:
Mounga was so casual about getting back there. He saw Barrett missed the ball on the ground and immediately needed to run back and cover fullback
Exactly. He's fast but doesn't have a teleporting machine. Go open season on the kicking but christ that's just being ridiculous.
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mariner4life said:
Best midfielder in the country gets our bonus point back
Do you sink piss for breakfast as well?
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Crucial said:
Higgins said:
Luke Whitelock GOOOOONE (scratched due to illness) Ardie to No 8 Jackson Hemepo to the bench
Ardie at 8 could be interesting. More room to play.
Getting closer to his real number as well.Good game fron Kid'nPlay
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booboo said:
Crucial said:
Higgins said:
Luke Whitelock GOOOOONE (scratched due to illness) Ardie to No 8 Jackson Hemepo to the bench
Ardie at 8 could be interesting. More room to play.
Getting closer to his real number as well.Good game fron Kid'nPlay
Just Kid.
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I havent watched but listened to Yealdens commentary.
From his comments, the MOTM would be either Savea or Tu'unukuafe.
But I gotta say, the myth of the Argie scrum is gone, we smashed them with a front row of Perry, Harris and Ta'avao!
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@taniwharugby And Pat Tuipulotu who is supposedly an awful scrummager as well according to many on here.
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if a ref is going to make a call based on his viewing of a play on the big screen, against the call of the TMO, do we need a TMO (the fact he very likely got it wrong is irrelevant given how often TMOs do)
I have no issues with him making the call, but it does bring into question the need for a TMO if a ref is going to go to him and then ignore him.
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Overall good game. Conditions were poor before hand so Cld expect some drop ball. One of those games where everyone played part, yes some had quieter games but sometimes ball just goes that way. Overall I think Ardie was with Sam Cane two most influential players. Both just massive physically.
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Maynal highlighted the issues with modern rugby, which is primarily the inconsistency of the refereeing. Each individual call could be OK, but they vary so much from week to week it's bloody frustrating.
What's a double movement? When is a tackle aroudn the chest a penalty? How the hell you card SBW for offside, but then not marching an Argie for a professional foul killing quick ball is beyond me. By comparison, I thought the ref in the morning game could have gone to the pocket earlie. It's not so much bad refereeing, as inconsistent bloody refereeing, and never knowing where the line is. Farked if I know how the players feel.
Overall, I'm pretty comfortable with having fewer YC in the game, and personally would be stoked if captains were penalised for trying to tell a ref how to ref the game! Maybe an automatic penalty for mentioning Yellow Card or Professional Foul. Would quickly change how captains deal with referees.
Anyhoo, a good game to watch, and some great forward dominance. Good to see some of the fringer players step up.
Great to see Ardie step up and play a blinder. I think what we're seeing is the coaches selecting on attributes, adn then backing themselves to get skills and patterns into the players. This is how someone like Dane Coles goes from fringe scary to best in world; ditto with DMac and Codie Taylor, and Ardie, and so on. Hopefully Akira gets there soon
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Hansen has some decisions to make about the backs in particular I reckon. Naholo was better on the left wing than he has been on the right for a while. But not good enough to push Reiko out. As a right wing he’s nowhere near BFA, who has been better there than at fullback. Beauden looks decent at fullback, but for me he’s still easily our best 1st five. Crotty was good today but no better than Goodhue at centre. After the last 2 games I wonder how much of our backline’s game plan depends on the big unit ball handler at first receiver which we’ve been missing without BBBR. And our defence seems wobbly without Wayne Smith around.
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@jc I disagree on a couple of points. To me Naholo looked like a fish out water on the left, but in saying that I am not convinced about him being on the right either.
The second part I disagree with is Barrett being easily the best first five. As a footy player Barrett is a better player than Mo'unga at this stage, but I am not convinced he is a better 10.
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In stark contrast to last week, BB kicked beautifully. Our scrum did excellent work, and the loosies were in the thick of it all night. I much prefer BFA on the wing than fullback. I also rate Sam Whitelock as an infinitely better captain than Read.
While I reckon the TMO did a pretty good job (no Ayoub, thank god) the ref was a bit baffling at times with what he blew up and what he let go. And the Argies were their own worst enemies with some truly shit kick in plays. I bet their coach has them practicing kick taps until they bleed this week.
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@jc fair points but I don't agree. At the moment that back three is our best. Naholo is the best 14, he gives us gainline and can finish, why everyone picks on everything he does is beyond me. We look potent when he and Reiko are on wings.
Smith is killing it at fullback. I thing is the organisation he does on attack and d, blows Barrett and Mackenzie out of water!! If is a link man and another set of eyes which is why he is a leader in the team, when he plays wing that is lost. I have always thought that BB is next best fullback. Just my thoughts
