Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother
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@kirwan said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
Kind of crazy that it’s the equivalent of a headbutt.
Sticks and stones and all that.
Although does make it quite intriguing to try and think of how you might unintentionally perform "serious and gross verbal abuse of a highly-offensive sexual nature in relation to a player's mother accompanied by a highly-offensive sexual gesture". Seems kinda specific. Man those kids must hate their dads.
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@tim said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother
Cape Town - Junior Springbok hooker Tiaan van der Merwe has been banned for six weeks after verbally attacking an England player during the recently-completed Junior World Championship.
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@stargazer said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
I'd been okay with a one-week suspension (or two if you take into consideration that it's a worldwide event involving countries that are much more conservative than we are), but this is way over the top.
I’d give him one week for it being a piss poor sledge and his opposite number two weeks for not having a decent comeback for it .
Have no fucks to give what people in conservative countries might be offended by, they tend to be backward shitholes anyway .
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out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
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@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
With or without said cock in her mouth?
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@catogrande said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
With or without said cock in her mouth?
what kind of a fucking stupid question is that?
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@mariner4life said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@catogrande said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
With or without said cock in her mouth?
what kind of a fucking stupid question is that?
One man's meat, is another man's gravy...
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@catogrande said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@mariner4life said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@catogrande said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
With or without said cock in her mouth?
what kind of a fucking stupid question is that?
One man's meat, is another man's gravy...
wait, someone got sloppy seconds now? the plot thickens!
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@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
Like Van der Merwe apparently. So it would be one of those “ tightrope blowjobs” ie you’re all good as long as you don’t look down .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
Yo mamma.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
Yo mamma.
banned, bro...for eternity.
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@taniwharugby said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
Yo mamma.
banned, bro...for eternity.
About fucking time!!!
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@jegga said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kiwiinmelb said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
out of curiosity , whats the mum look like ?
Like Van der Merwe apparently. So it would be one of those “ tightrope blowjobs” ie you’re all good as long as you don’t look down .
Wait what...I thought she looked like the son?
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@kirwan said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@mariner4life said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@hooroo said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
Six weeks is probably too long - but lets leave the wankerish sledging in cricket.
It's been a front row tradition for ever. This isn't some new thing that has just started
Pffft, like any front rowers have the mental capacity to come up with a retort, let alone the original sledge.
But to be serious for a second, racial taunting used to be a part of that tradition too ... I'm pretty sure it isn't now.
fuck man, that's a long bow to draw.
Why? If an excuse for it is because it's "tradition", then part of that tradition was racially sledging, pretty short bow I would think.
I just don't see what it adds to the game?
It's not even in the same ball park. Ignore rugby for a second, abuse/banter between guys is just part of growing up.
It's important to learn how to deal with it, and not "cry to mommy".
The best response to shit talk is to win the game/smash them in a tackle (second is theoretical from my point of view...)
Something else you learn as a 'guy' growing up is that you don't need to abuse people and you should pick your time for banter. Young guys learn to banter amongst their mates, and that's all good, but try it with some guy you don't know at the pub and you're liable to wind up with a fist in your face. I think the first priority should be teaching young guys not to be twats then you can focus on how they deal with others being twats.
I'm not arguing against your response to shit talk, but personally I think there's no need for that stuff in rugby and clearly WR feels the same way which is why they're trying to stamp it out - they likely see it as a slippery slope to verbal abuse.
These guys are about to embark on professional careers (in fact most of them probably already are professionals) and as such they'll need to learn the standards of their workplace - tough way for this particular guy to learn that lesson but everyone else is on notice.
@Rancid-Schnitzel So you noticed brown v white racism in rugby but you don't think there was a tradition of racial sledging in rugby? But, if you want a specific example have a read of Norm Hewitt's book - even still I'm not saying it's always prevalent in rugby, most rugby teams I was involved in weren't engaged in that or the stuff Hooroo is saying part of the tradition.
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@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kirwan said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@mariner4life said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@hooroo said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
Six weeks is probably too long - but lets leave the wankerish sledging in cricket.
It's been a front row tradition for ever. This isn't some new thing that has just started
Pffft, like any front rowers have the mental capacity to come up with a retort, let alone the original sledge.
But to be serious for a second, racial taunting used to be a part of that tradition too ... I'm pretty sure it isn't now.
fuck man, that's a long bow to draw.
Why? If an excuse for it is because it's "tradition", then part of that tradition was racially sledging, pretty short bow I would think.
I just don't see what it adds to the game?
It's not even in the same ball park. Ignore rugby for a second, abuse/banter between guys is just part of growing up.
It's important to learn how to deal with it, and not "cry to mommy".
The best response to shit talk is to win the game/smash them in a tackle (second is theoretical from my point of view...)
Something else you learn as a 'guy' growing up is that you don't need to abuse people and you should pick your time for banter. Young guys learn to banter amongst their mates, and that's all good, but try it with some guy you don't know at the pub and you're liable to wind up with a fist in your face. I think the first priority should be teaching young guys not to be twats then you can focus on how they deal with others being twats.
I'm not arguing against your response to shit talk, but personally I think there's no need for that stuff in rugby and clearly WR feels the same way which is why they're trying to stamp it out - they likely see it as a slippery slope to verbal abuse.
These guys are about to embark on professional careers (in fact most of them probably already are professionals) and as such they'll need to learn the standards of their workplace - tough way for this particular guy to learn that lesson but everyone else is on notice.
@Rancid-Schnitzel So you noticed brown v white racism in rugby but you don't think there was a tradition of racial sledging in rugby? But, if you want a specific example have a read of Norm Hewitt's book - even still I'm not saying it's always prevalent in rugby, most rugby teams I was involved in weren't engaged in that or the stuff Hooroo is saying part of the tradition.
Yes I noticed it, but how do you arrive at the conclusion that it was a "tradition" and thereby somehow acceptable? It's a weird argument.
I'm not sure which rugby teams you played for but in pretty much every game I played in as an adult there was some sledging. Particularly if it was a tough game. The thing in rugby is that if you have time or energy to sledge then you're probably not playing hard enough.
The rest is typical boilerplate politically correct nonsense. This isn't any old "workplace". It's a fucking rugby field not an open plan office or meeting room.
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This just pathetic
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kirwan said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@mariner4life said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@hooroo said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
Six weeks is probably too long - but lets leave the wankerish sledging in cricket.
It's been a front row tradition for ever. This isn't some new thing that has just started
Pffft, like any front rowers have the mental capacity to come up with a retort, let alone the original sledge.
But to be serious for a second, racial taunting used to be a part of that tradition too ... I'm pretty sure it isn't now.
fuck man, that's a long bow to draw.
Why? If an excuse for it is because it's "tradition", then part of that tradition was racially sledging, pretty short bow I would think.
I just don't see what it adds to the game?
It's not even in the same ball park. Ignore rugby for a second, abuse/banter between guys is just part of growing up.
It's important to learn how to deal with it, and not "cry to mommy".
The best response to shit talk is to win the game/smash them in a tackle (second is theoretical from my point of view...)
Something else you learn as a 'guy' growing up is that you don't need to abuse people and you should pick your time for banter. Young guys learn to banter amongst their mates, and that's all good, but try it with some guy you don't know at the pub and you're liable to wind up with a fist in your face. I think the first priority should be teaching young guys not to be twats then you can focus on how they deal with others being twats.
I'm not arguing against your response to shit talk, but personally I think there's no need for that stuff in rugby and clearly WR feels the same way which is why they're trying to stamp it out - they likely see it as a slippery slope to verbal abuse.
These guys are about to embark on professional careers (in fact most of them probably already are professionals) and as such they'll need to learn the standards of their workplace - tough way for this particular guy to learn that lesson but everyone else is on notice.
@Rancid-Schnitzel So you noticed brown v white racism in rugby but you don't think there was a tradition of racial sledging in rugby? But, if you want a specific example have a read of Norm Hewitt's book - even still I'm not saying it's always prevalent in rugby, most rugby teams I was involved in weren't engaged in that or the stuff Hooroo is saying part of the tradition.
Yes I noticed it, but how do you arrive at the conclusion that it was a "tradition" and thereby somehow acceptable? It's a weird argument.
I'm not sure which rugby teams you played for but in pretty much every game I played in as an adult there was some sledging. Particularly if it was a tough game. The thing in rugby is that if you have time or energy to sledge then you're probably not playing hard enough.
The rest is typical boilerplate politically correct nonsense. This isn't any old "workplace". It's a fucking rugby field not an open plan office or meeting room.
Lets deal with the last point first, yes this is a rugby field, and the regulating body of the sport has laws aimed at preventing abuse on those fields. And quite clearly they've decided that this sort of carry on isn't what they want in the game (I agree with them, I don't see the fucking point of it and you're in trouble if you're game plan to win involves sex with mumma, bemuses me why people defend it). Now, you can bitch and moan about political correctness blah blah blah, but the fact is there are certain standards pro players need to accept even if it isn't an open plan office or meeting room - they can either pony up to it or carry on like a twat and get a ban.
As for the first point, I didn't say it was acceptable, something that is part of the tradition doesn't have to be acceptable, it just happened, and just because something happened in the past doesn't mean it has to continue in the future. Thankfully most of the racial stuff is gone from the game.
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@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kirwan said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@mariner4life said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@hooroo said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
Six weeks is probably too long - but lets leave the wankerish sledging in cricket.
It's been a front row tradition for ever. This isn't some new thing that has just started
Pffft, like any front rowers have the mental capacity to come up with a retort, let alone the original sledge.
But to be serious for a second, racial taunting used to be a part of that tradition too ... I'm pretty sure it isn't now.
fuck man, that's a long bow to draw.
Why? If an excuse for it is because it's "tradition", then part of that tradition was racially sledging, pretty short bow I would think.
I just don't see what it adds to the game?
It's not even in the same ball park. Ignore rugby for a second, abuse/banter between guys is just part of growing up.
It's important to learn how to deal with it, and not "cry to mommy".
The best response to shit talk is to win the game/smash them in a tackle (second is theoretical from my point of view...)
Something else you learn as a 'guy' growing up is that you don't need to abuse people and you should pick your time for banter. Young guys learn to banter amongst their mates, and that's all good, but try it with some guy you don't know at the pub and you're liable to wind up with a fist in your face. I think the first priority should be teaching young guys not to be twats then you can focus on how they deal with others being twats.
I'm not arguing against your response to shit talk, but personally I think there's no need for that stuff in rugby and clearly WR feels the same way which is why they're trying to stamp it out - they likely see it as a slippery slope to verbal abuse.
These guys are about to embark on professional careers (in fact most of them probably already are professionals) and as such they'll need to learn the standards of their workplace - tough way for this particular guy to learn that lesson but everyone else is on notice.
@Rancid-Schnitzel So you noticed brown v white racism in rugby but you don't think there was a tradition of racial sledging in rugby? But, if you want a specific example have a read of Norm Hewitt's book - even still I'm not saying it's always prevalent in rugby, most rugby teams I was involved in weren't engaged in that or the stuff Hooroo is saying part of the tradition.
Yes I noticed it, but how do you arrive at the conclusion that it was a "tradition" and thereby somehow acceptable? It's a weird argument.
I'm not sure which rugby teams you played for but in pretty much every game I played in as an adult there was some sledging. Particularly if it was a tough game. The thing in rugby is that if you have time or energy to sledge then you're probably not playing hard enough.
The rest is typical boilerplate politically correct nonsense. This isn't any old "workplace". It's a fucking rugby field not an open plan office or meeting room.
Lets deal with the last point first, yes this is a rugby field, and the regulating body of the sport has laws aimed at preventing abuse on those fields. And quite clearly they've decided that this sort of carry on isn't what they want in the game (I agree with them, I don't see the fucking point of it and you're in trouble if you're game plan to win involves sex with mumma, bemuses me why people defend it). Now, you can bitch and moan about political correctness blah blah blah, but the fact is there are certain standards pro players need to accept even if it isn't an open plan office or meeting room - they can either pony up to it or carry on like a twat and get a ban.
As for the first point, I didn't say it was acceptable, something that is part of the tradition doesn't have to be acceptable, it just happened, and just because something happened in the past doesn't mean it has to continue in the future. Thankfully most of the racial stuff is gone from the game.
Just more of the same isn't it? The "victim" here could have responded with a comeback or sensibly just ignored a comment from a fat, inbred Boer. But no, let's make this look like a potential epidemic, a workplace hazard that could cause untold damage to the sport and the young men playing it. We have to nip this on the bud before the world collapses. Christ, nobody does hyperbole like you PC HRM types.
You still haven't provided any evidence whatsoever that racial abuse was a tradition and thus defended for being a tradition. You might want to dial that one back.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@kirwan said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@mariner4life said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@hooroo said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
@nepia said in Junior Bok banned for 'sexually crude' comment aimed at England opponent's mother:
Six weeks is probably too long - but lets leave the wankerish sledging in cricket.
It's been a front row tradition for ever. This isn't some new thing that has just started
Pffft, like any front rowers have the mental capacity to come up with a retort, let alone the original sledge.
But to be serious for a second, racial taunting used to be a part of that tradition too ... I'm pretty sure it isn't now.
fuck man, that's a long bow to draw.
Why? If an excuse for it is because it's "tradition", then part of that tradition was racially sledging, pretty short bow I would think.
I just don't see what it adds to the game?
It's not even in the same ball park. Ignore rugby for a second, abuse/banter between guys is just part of growing up.
It's important to learn how to deal with it, and not "cry to mommy".
The best response to shit talk is to win the game/smash them in a tackle (second is theoretical from my point of view...)
Something else you learn as a 'guy' growing up is that you don't need to abuse people and you should pick your time for banter. Young guys learn to banter amongst their mates, and that's all good, but try it with some guy you don't know at the pub and you're liable to wind up with a fist in your face. I think the first priority should be teaching young guys not to be twats then you can focus on how they deal with others being twats.
I'm not arguing against your response to shit talk, but personally I think there's no need for that stuff in rugby and clearly WR feels the same way which is why they're trying to stamp it out - they likely see it as a slippery slope to verbal abuse.
These guys are about to embark on professional careers (in fact most of them probably already are professionals) and as such they'll need to learn the standards of their workplace - tough way for this particular guy to learn that lesson but everyone else is on notice.
@Rancid-Schnitzel So you noticed brown v white racism in rugby but you don't think there was a tradition of racial sledging in rugby? But, if you want a specific example have a read of Norm Hewitt's book - even still I'm not saying it's always prevalent in rugby, most rugby teams I was involved in weren't engaged in that or the stuff Hooroo is saying part of the tradition.
Yes I noticed it, but how do you arrive at the conclusion that it was a "tradition" and thereby somehow acceptable? It's a weird argument.
I'm not sure which rugby teams you played for but in pretty much every game I played in as an adult there was some sledging. Particularly if it was a tough game. The thing in rugby is that if you have time or energy to sledge then you're probably not playing hard enough.
The rest is typical boilerplate politically correct nonsense. This isn't any old "workplace". It's a fucking rugby field not an open plan office or meeting room.
Lets deal with the last point first, yes this is a rugby field, and the regulating body of the sport has laws aimed at preventing abuse on those fields. And quite clearly they've decided that this sort of carry on isn't what they want in the game (I agree with them, I don't see the fucking point of it and you're in trouble if you're game plan to win involves sex with mumma, bemuses me why people defend it). Now, you can bitch and moan about political correctness blah blah blah, but the fact is there are certain standards pro players need to accept even if it isn't an open plan office or meeting room - they can either pony up to it or carry on like a twat and get a ban.
As for the first point, I didn't say it was acceptable, something that is part of the tradition doesn't have to be acceptable, it just happened, and just because something happened in the past doesn't mean it has to continue in the future. Thankfully most of the racial stuff is gone from the game.
Just more of the same isn't it? The "victim" here could have responded with a comeback or sensibly just ignored a comment from a fat, inbred Boer. But no, let's make this look like a potential epidemic, a workplace hazard that could cause untold damage to the sport and the young men playing it. We have to nip this on the bud before the world collapses. Christ, nobody does hyperbole like you PC HRM types.
You still haven't provided any evidence whatsoever that racial abuse was a tradition and thus defended for being a tradition. You might want to dial that one back.
Why don't you dial it back? Where did I say it was a 'good tradition'? It was stuff that carried on over time, you can pretend it didn't if you want.
WTF is a PCHRM - I get the PC bit, and quite frankly if not being PC is to carry on like a twat then I'm happy to be PC.
Who said the world would collapse, appears nobody does hyperbole like you (actually I don't know what the equivalent insult is) types? But, the decision from WR clearly shows that it's an issue for them. I personally wouldn't have given him 6 weeks even though I think it's stupid shit and we don't need in the game.
