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@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@jegga said in Aussie Cricket:
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12190094
As I touched on in the other thread. I hate Nicholas for trying to be one of the boys with the Aussies he commentates with who ranged from legendary to very good at test cricket back in the day.
You were an average county cricketer, you never played a test. Fucken know your place fluffybunny.
Yeah. Don't comment on cricket unless you've played tests.
Stuffs up Fernage in summer huh?
There's a difference between talking shit to equally pathetic cricketers on a forum to being paid lots of money as one of the experts.
Warnie, Tubby Slats, Gilly, Junior.....all varying degrees of Aussie cricket royalty.
...joined by some jumped up fuck from England who again, never played internationally.
Just doesn't sit right with me in terms of credibility.
Jim Maxwell
Christopher Martin Jenkins
Harsha Bhohle
Gerald de Lock
Brian Waddle
John Arlott
Tony Cozier
Brian Johnston
Neil Mantorpe
Akan McGilvray
Ian Galloway
Glen Mitchell
Drew Morphett
Peter Roebuck
Alan WilkinsNo credibility at ALL among that lot
Alan Richards I missed
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@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@jegga said in Aussie Cricket:
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12190094
As I touched on in the other thread. I hate Nicholas for trying to be one of the boys with the Aussies he commentates with who ranged from legendary to very good at test cricket back in the day.
You were an average county cricketer, you never played a test. Fucken know your place fluffybunny.
Yeah. Don't comment on cricket unless you've played tests.
Stuffs up Fernage in summer huh?
There's a difference between talking shit to equally pathetic cricketers on a forum to being paid lots of money as one of the experts.
Warnie, Tubby Slats, Gilly, Junior.....all varying degrees of Aussie cricket royalty.
...joined by some jumped up fuck from England who again, never played internationally.
Just doesn't sit right with me in terms of credibility.
Jim Maxwell
Christopher Martin Jenkins
Harsha Bhohle
Gerald de Lock
Brian Waddle
John Arlott
Tony Cozier
Brian Johnston
Neil Mantorpe
Akan McGilvray
Ian Galloway
Glen Mitchell
Drew Morphett
Peter Roebuck
Alan WilkinsNo credibility at ALL among that lot
Hand on heart I have no idea whatsoever who half of those guys are.
....and even still the other half just wouldn't hold the gravitas of a Richie Benaud or a Bill Lawry and maybe not even one of today's guys.
First para sums you up.
Second para yes they do. Seriously.
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Back on topic ...
.. anyone watch how easily India ran down 3-hundy?
9 and a but an over with 12 to go. Kathik and Dhoni never took a risk and ran it down with 4 balls to spare.
The only time it looked like a potential wicket was a near run out on the winning run.
Everything else just no risk, proper cricket. 9s an over with zero risk.
Beautiful to watch.
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@nzzp said in Aussie Cricket:
What do yo uthink of Bryan Waddle? Serious question - I don't think commentators need to have top level experience to be great.
You have to respect Wads for the sheer amount of Black Caps cricket he has had to...uh...endure.
Wads saying "down towards the boundary" will always be the sound of summer for me. Like other great ball by ball commentators like Agnew and Bhogle he can call it straight but is happy to get lost in the weeds in the middle session on day three of a test. Makes a good foil for Coney too, who NTA points out can be overboard with others.
Some of the best commentary I've heard was the 2007 World Cup during the pool stages, Wads literally called the whole game start to finish and Ian Smith would join him out of sympathy for most of it in between his TV commitments. It was two guys just trading stories about past World Cups, Windies tours, Hadlee the lot.
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@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
@NTA said in Aussie Cricket:
Is Brian Waddle the guy who thinks he's a warrior poet?
Suspect you think Jeremy Coney (former test captain)
I can confirm that's definitely a Coney trait.
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@MN5 Just to revert to the commentators for a moment
Nicholas captained Hampshire for a decade or more during their most successful era and also was captain of England A. As @Catogrande said he was very much thought of as in the Brearley mould although a better batsman. He played during the Lamb, Gower, Gatting time. If he's played in a different decade or for a different country (e.g. NZ) he would almost certainly picked up some full caps.
He is / was also highly regarded as a commentator in the early days. I'm sure he won commentator of the year in the UK. I did find him much more palatable in his earlier career. His UK persona seemed more toned down but you know what. Her makes his living from being the host. If his employers want him to be a cheerleader then good luck to him for doing so. He's got a great gig why would he rock the boat.
As for your self-avowed ignorance about other commentators as @booboo said - it really does say it all. While Benaud was an absolute legend having perfected the art of saying very little there are some on that list who are at the very least his equal. Plus as I said above it seems the various Aussie (and others) want partisan ex-players rather than balanced nuance
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@dogmeat said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 Just to revert to the commentators for a moment
Nicholas captained Hampshire for a decade or more during their most successful era and also was captain of England A. As @Catogrande said he was very much thought of as in the Brearley mould although a better batsman. He played during the Lamb, Gower, Gatting time. If he's played in a different decade or for a different country (e.g. NZ) he would almost certainly picked up some full caps.
He is / was also highly regarded as a commentator in the early days. I'm sure he won commentator of the year in the UK. I did find him much more palatable in his earlier career. His UK persona seemed more toned down but you know what. Her makes his living from being the host. If his employers want him to be a cheerleader then good luck to him for doing so. He's got a great gig why would he rock the boat.
As for your self-avowed ignorance about other commentators as @booboo said - it really does say it all. While Benaud was an absolute legend having perfected the art of saying very little there are some on that list who are at the very least his equal. Plus as I said above it seems the various Aussie (and others) want partisan ex-players rather than balanced nuance
I can listen to Nicholas all day and think he's a great commentator
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@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@jegga said in Aussie Cricket:
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12190094
As I touched on in the other thread. I hate Nicholas for trying to be one of the boys with the Aussies he commentates with who ranged from legendary to very good at test cricket back in the day.
You were an average county cricketer, you never played a test. Fucken know your place fluffybunny.
Yeah. Don't comment on cricket unless you've played tests.
Stuffs up Fernage in summer huh?
There's a difference between talking shit to equally pathetic cricketers on a forum to being paid lots of money as one of the experts.
Warnie, Tubby Slats, Gilly, Junior.....all varying degrees of Aussie cricket royalty.
...joined by some jumped up fuck from England who again, never played internationally.
Just doesn't sit right with me in terms of credibility.
Jim Maxwell
Christopher Martin Jenkins
Harsha Bhohle
Gerald de Kock
Brian Waddle
John Arlott
Tony Cozier
Brian Johnston
Neil Manthorpe
Alan McGilvray
Ian Galloway
Glen Mitchell
Drew Morphett
Peter Roebuck
Alan WilkinsNo credibility at ALL among that lot
Sorry had a couple of typos:
de Kock with a K
Manthorpe with an h
Alan not Akan McGilvray -
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@dogmeat said in Aussie Cricket:
@Hooroo I think it's a bit rich to criticise Nicholas when you look at some of the knobs that commentate here in NZ
I agree. In saying that, a lot of people don't like Simon Doull but I also think he is a good commentator.
Kerry O'Keefe is better for radio as it suits his waffle where it doesn't work so well on TV. Doesn't help that he get's seated with a couple of morons who don't get it
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@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
Back on topic ...
.. anyone watch how easily India ran down 3-hundy?
9 and a but an over with 12 to go. Kathik and Dhoni never took a risk and ran it down with 4 balls to spare.
The only time it looked like a potential wicket was a near run out on the winning run.
Everything else just no risk, proper cricket. 9s an over with zero risk.
Beautiful to watch.
Another typo ... in case you were wondering what fism is ...
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@dogmeat said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 Just to revert to the commentators for a moment
Nicholas captained Hampshire for a decade or more during their most successful era and also was captain of England A. As @Catogrande said he was very much thought of as in the Brearley mould although a better batsman. He played during the Lamb, Gower, Gatting time. If he's played in a different decade or for a different country (e.g. NZ) he would almost certainly picked up some full caps.
He is / was also highly regarded as a commentator in the early days. I'm sure he won commentator of the year in the UK. I did find him much more palatable in his earlier career. His UK persona seemed more toned down but you know what. Her makes his living from being the host. If his employers want him to be a cheerleader then good luck to him for doing so. He's got a great gig why would he rock the boat.
As for your self-avowed ignorance about other commentators as @booboo said - it really does say it all. While Benaud was an absolute legend having perfected the art of saying very little there are some on that list who are at the very least his equal. Plus as I said above it seems the various Aussie (and others) want partisan ex-players rather than balanced nuance
Nice novel.
He's still a complete dick and his desire to suck up to anything remotely Aussie irks me.
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@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@dogmeat said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 Just to revert to the commentators for a moment
Nicholas captained Hampshire for a decade or more during their most successful era and also was captain of England A. As @Catogrande said he was very much thought of as in the Brearley mould although a better batsman. He played during the Lamb, Gower, Gatting time. If he's played in a different decade or for a different country (e.g. NZ) he would almost certainly picked up some full caps.
He is / was also highly regarded as a commentator in the early days. I'm sure he won commentator of the year in the UK. I did find him much more palatable in his earlier career. His UK persona seemed more toned down but you know what. Her makes his living from being the host. If his employers want him to be a cheerleader then good luck to him for doing so. He's got a great gig why would he rock the boat.
As for your self-avowed ignorance about other commentators as @booboo said - it really does say it all. While Benaud was an absolute legend having perfected the art of saying very little there are some on that list who are at the very least his equal. Plus as I said above it seems the various Aussie (and others) want partisan ex-players rather than balanced nuance
Nice novel.
He's still a complete dick and his desire to suck up to anything remotely Aussie irks me.
Apart from "sucking up to Aussie" why don't you like him? Does he speak too well/eloquently for you or something?
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@Hooroo said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@dogmeat said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 Just to revert to the commentators for a moment
Nicholas captained Hampshire for a decade or more during their most successful era and also was captain of England A. As @Catogrande said he was very much thought of as in the Brearley mould although a better batsman. He played during the Lamb, Gower, Gatting time. If he's played in a different decade or for a different country (e.g. NZ) he would almost certainly picked up some full caps.
He is / was also highly regarded as a commentator in the early days. I'm sure he won commentator of the year in the UK. I did find him much more palatable in his earlier career. His UK persona seemed more toned down but you know what. Her makes his living from being the host. If his employers want him to be a cheerleader then good luck to him for doing so. He's got a great gig why would he rock the boat.
As for your self-avowed ignorance about other commentators as @booboo said - it really does say it all. While Benaud was an absolute legend having perfected the art of saying very little there are some on that list who are at the very least his equal. Plus as I said above it seems the various Aussie (and others) want partisan ex-players rather than balanced nuance
Nice novel.
He's still a complete dick and his desire to suck up to anything remotely Aussie irks me.
Apart from "sucking up to Aussie" why don't you like him? Does he speak too well/eloquently for you or something?
No I dont mind a fellow provided the levels of eloquence and loquaciousness are evenly balanced.
I don't like him just how you don't like Warne ( if I remember rightly )
I think Warne is great.
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@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@Hooroo said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 said in Aussie Cricket:
@dogmeat said in Aussie Cricket:
@MN5 Just to revert to the commentators for a moment
Nicholas captained Hampshire for a decade or more during their most successful era and also was captain of England A. As @Catogrande said he was very much thought of as in the Brearley mould although a better batsman. He played during the Lamb, Gower, Gatting time. If he's played in a different decade or for a different country (e.g. NZ) he would almost certainly picked up some full caps.
He is / was also highly regarded as a commentator in the early days. I'm sure he won commentator of the year in the UK. I did find him much more palatable in his earlier career. His UK persona seemed more toned down but you know what. Her makes his living from being the host. If his employers want him to be a cheerleader then good luck to him for doing so. He's got a great gig why would he rock the boat.
As for your self-avowed ignorance about other commentators as @booboo said - it really does say it all. While Benaud was an absolute legend having perfected the art of saying very little there are some on that list who are at the very least his equal. Plus as I said above it seems the various Aussie (and others) want partisan ex-players rather than balanced nuance
Nice novel.
He's still a complete dick and his desire to suck up to anything remotely Aussie irks me.
Apart from "sucking up to Aussie" why don't you like him? Does he speak too well/eloquently for you or something?
No I dont mind a fellow provided the levels of eloquence and loquaciousness are evenly balanced.
I don't like him just how you don't like Warne ( if I remember rightly )
I think Warne is great.
No, I'm not the Anti-Warne, I don't think. There are a couple worse than him.
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Waddle and Coney commentating Shell Trophy on the radio will always be my sound of summer.
Cricket stories (mostly) interspersed with irregular moments of cricketing action
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@mariner4life I listen to them quite a bit and really enjoy their work. Wads is a good foil for Coney, and they tell some cracking yarns amongst the cricket. The promo trailers they had of Wads warming up for this season were classic.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
Waddle and Coney commentating Shell Trophy on the radio will always be my sound of summer.
Cricket stories (mostly) interspersed with irregular moments of cricketing action
Agree. Driving with them in the background is pretty awesome I must say.
Which kinda contradicts my argument about Nicholas cos as far ask know Waddle was never a player of any note.
But he isn't a wankstain like Nicholas so there you go.
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I reckon people can fuck off with the "haven't played in tests, so can't be a commentator" line.
Test players bring some experience, and it's right to have some. But they also tend to be people who think that what they did was easy -- after all, they could do it. it's better to temper that with people who actually appreciate how difficult it is. Also people who don't regard the players on the field as mates, which rather too many recent players do.
Anyone suggesting only test players should comment -- I expect you to back up Marshall in all AB commentaries, on the basis he's played tests, so obviously knows the rules (!!) and understands play better than anyone else. The US has this right for football -- they employ pairs of commentators to do the main commentary. A voice, who calls the actual run of play, and then an ex-player who talks you through the football aspects of it all. They employ a rules expert who really knows the rules too.
(If you were after people who knew what was going on the inside you wouldn't employ ex-players -- you'd employ ex-coaches.)
