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    @Machpants
    Google is your friend.
    Or, in your case, possibly not.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Is no-one going to attack the ball on the ground?

    Unless Reece is in the vicinity, we are simply not doing it on any regular basis. The odd occasion with Papali’i or Taylor. England didn’t really do it either.

    For the most part our attendance to the collision was very good. We made it hard for them to get their hands on the ball.

    I think we have banked on trying to drive over the ball given how most refs officiate the tackle/ruck.

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    @dogmeat said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Take out Scott, Jordie and Beauden we would have lost.
    100%

    So true.

    12 against 15 would have been too big an ask.

    I thought I had a mortgage on the dad jokes.

    Beaudie is due a red card to join his brothers though…

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    I thought I had a mortgage on the dad jokes.

    Really? Are you the Loan Ranger?

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    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    You watched the game, presumably.

    This is the Fern, that is indeed a presumption.

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    Man, I know he used to be everyone's favourite player but the hyperbole on BB's performance is a bit crazy. Did some really good things for sure, but also put a kick into touch on the full, kicked the ball away aimlessly when we had an overlap, and put in one of his usual dog-shit exits. Total rocks and diamonds, but I'm reading 10/10 performance and some saying he has game management and ought to be starting at 10 - sorry but that's fucking mad - he has always played good cameos against tired legs, and he has never displayed good game management despite a shitload of opportunities.
    Ratima, as expected, made a big difference to everything happening outside him. Backs need fast ball. I can only wonder whether we've become complacent about that fact due to having Smith for so long. Christie played well and is a super defender, but he just isn't what we need.
    McKenzie continues to create most of our oportunities.
    That's the worst I've seen Telea play. You don't pick him for pace, but you still need him to finish that movement somehow, or at the least recycle, not throw the ball away. Yeah Perofeta should have gone the other way, but that is a smaller error than Telea's. Aside from that, he was targeted by the poms positionally, and looked like an 18 year old Jonah vs France on defence.
    Savea hasn't been top 3 loosies in either game. World player of not-this-year so far. Finau quiet, but expectations on him ought to be a bit lower.
    Lineout was terrible. Very, very lucky to get away with a win against a top tier team when we turned that much ball over.
    Good scrum, largely good rucks.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Machpants
    Google is your friend.
    Or, in your case, possibly not.

    That reeks sooo much of...
    "Do your own research.
    ... again...
    ... again...
    ... and again...
    ... until you find something which fits your desired result/thesis."

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    @Kruse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Machpants
    Google is your friend.
    Or, in your case, possibly not.

    That reeks sooo much of...
    "Do your own research.
    ... again...
    ... again...
    ... and again...
    ... until you find something which fits your desired result/thesis."

    Yeah my research shows it's actually dick length.

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    Not often I agree with Justin Marshall

    All Blacks legend urges Scott Robertson to issue Rieko Ioane ultimatum to ‘evolve’ game plan

    All Blacks legend urges Scott Robertson to issue Rieko Ioane ultimatum to ‘evolve’ game plan

    All Blacks great Justin Marshall believes Rieko Ioane’s place could be under threat.

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    @kev I don't think he needs to be issued an ultimatum. Think we just need to give it time to see if it does evolve (midfield).

    Of far more concern is the lineout... but that's led by 2 crusaders so probably don't need an ultimatum there 😉

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    @Bones yep I agree - coaches need to work on him, not replace him. He is a natural runner so his first instinct is to get up to speed and then look. Better to know the space is there and pass on instinct. Good thing was they created more room in the 2nd test.

    The lineout was a mess but confident they will sort it - everything including once they had the ball.

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    @kev said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Bones yep I agree - coaches need to work on him, not replace him. He is a natural runner so his first instinct is to get up to speed and then look. Better to know the space is there and pass on instinct. Good thing was they created more room in the 2nd test.

    The lineout was a mess but confident they will sort it - everything including once they had the ball.

    How much longer does Reiko need. Before the coaches accept the obvious. Hes not a center.

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    @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Bones yep I agree - coaches need to work on him, not replace him. He is a natural runner so his first instinct is to get up to speed and then look. Better to know the space is there and pass on instinct. Good thing was they created more room in the 2nd test.

    The lineout was a mess but confident they will sort it - everything including once they had the ball.

    How much longer does Reiko need. Before the coaches accept the obvious. Hes not a center.

    If he doesn’t adapt to rush d then not much longer. But this is a new coaching team so they will give him every chance.

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    @kev said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Bones yep I agree - coaches need to work on him, not replace him. He is a natural runner so his first instinct is to get up to speed and then look. Better to know the space is there and pass on instinct. Good thing was they created more room in the 2nd test.

    The lineout was a mess but confident they will sort it - everything including once they had the ball.

    How much longer does Reiko need. Before the coaches accept the obvious. Hes not a center.

    If he doesn’t adapt to rush d then not much longer. But this is a new coaching team so they will give him every chance.

    Wait, wasn't that our problem with the old coaching team?

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    @kev said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Bones yep I agree - coaches need to work on him, not replace him. He is a natural runner so his first instinct is to get up to speed and then look. Better to know the space is there and pass on instinct. Good thing was they created more room in the 2nd test.

    The lineout was a mess but confident they will sort it - everything including once they had the ball.

    How much longer does Reiko need. Before the coaches accept the obvious. Hes not a center.

    If he doesn’t adapt to rush d then not much longer. But this is a new coaching team so they will give him every chance.

    Why is it on him to adapt and not the coaching staff to devise a method of combating it?

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    Weird how heaps of people can remember that Rieko didn't pass a bunch of times in both games, but nobody can describe a single instance in any detail.

    Also odd that there is talk that he isn't good at "adapting" to rush defense - guess it's lucky that we have all those other 13's who ARE adapted, along with all those 13's we used to roll out that also suitably adapted.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

    If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

    I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

    Well, they're not Ireland, that's for sure.

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    @voodoo said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Weird how heaps of people can remember that Rieko didn't pass a bunch of times in both games, but nobody can describe a single instance in any detail.

    It's really not weird. There's dozens of times players take the wrong option in innocuous situations, the only ones that get remembered are complete botch ups or try scoring situations (e.g. Perofeta not going inside or Beauds with the shithouse kick to nowhere for no reason.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Weird how heaps of people can remember that Rieko didn't pass a bunch of times in both games, but nobody can describe a single instance in any detail.

    It's really not weird. There's dozens of times players take the wrong option in innocuous situations, the only ones that get remembered are complete botch ups or try scoring situations (e.g. Perofeta not going inside or Beauds with the shithouse kick to nowhere for no reason.

    I'd say when an "AB great calls on the coach to issue an ultimatum" then it's a touch weird to not cite a single example

    This is the fcking interweb, the home of pictures and videos, and best of all shiny red arrows - someone give us a bloody example to work with!

    I'm not interested in someone saying "I remember 3 times" then being unable to describe a single one. They may as well just say "it's just the vibe of the thing"

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    @voodoo oh you're talking about the article! Yeah I already commented on that bit.

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