Hurricanes v Chiefs
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Tim said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Chiefs dominated the ball in the 2nd half. Canes need new loose forwards.
Both Kirifi and Flanders (and lock Bird) were taken off. Bird was replaced by a loosie (Howden). Kirifi and Flanders by Iose and Lakai.
Canes need a top quality new head coach. Holland is not up to it. Find a great (as opposed to an OK) head coach and they might compete with the best teams
Chiefs look the real deal this year. They made the Canes look 2nd rate in the 2nd half. Losing Cameron was a big loss along with Proctor. Moorby looks OK but not good enough. Hopefully Love is back soon
But our lineout was well beaten after Bird was replaced (we need a taller lock in the replacements). And if Kirifi was replaced it should have been by Lakai. Its little thing like this that stuffs the team. I would have also had Higgins in the replacements so he could have come on at center and then Moorby can be taken off
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@antipodean said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
That Jordie decision surprises me, as he's clearly on the ground.
End result is length of the field turn-around with a good try.
I thought so at first glance, but the ref was right, I think. If you can't go for the ball when a player is on the ground, then isolated players can just lie down and wait for help to arrive and not be touched. The Chiefs player didn't flop onto Jordie, he attacked the ball.
Jordie was trying to hold the ball off the ground in a situation where he was meant to be releasing it immediately. So the Chiefs player only dived on him because he wasn't following the laws himself.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Canes4life Must say they were really disappointing, esp. Jordie. Pedestrian. Worked hard, but really bad decision-making. Like he started the bye early.
I think the Canes are better off shifting him back to fullback until Love comes back tbh. We just don’t have a strong kicking game at the back and it’s killing us.
It showed in this game that we struggled to win the kicking duel and just couldn’t get into the right areas of the park.
Morgan is hopeless at 10, had a very weak boot and it just put us under so much pressure.
Try Barrett at first (Godfrey isn't ready yet). Higgins or PUJ at 2nd. I would try Higgins for one game and see how he goes. PUJ at center or as a replacement until he gets back up to speed.
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Winger Lakai didn't do himself any favours though. IIRC, he was the one dropping the ball after catching it in the line-out; the Chiefs then kicked the ball and it ended up in a Chiefs try at the other end.
But Flander made a few f++kups too (one bad in the lineout). But overall he (Flanders) was good. Lakai is better than Iose. But we might lose him soon I guess
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Winger Barrett isn't a 10. If he's moved away from 12, it will be to fullback, not to 10.
But who else is there? Neither Moorby or Godfrey are good enough yet. I would have Love at FB
Cameron is class but sadly hes out. I would try Barrett at first and see how he goes. If hes shit then the team won't win it. No team does without a quality first. I would have Godfrey at FB until Love returns. Then after a few game maybe try him at 1st
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Winger Barrett isn't a 10. If he's moved away from 12, it will be to fullback, not to 10.
Cameron is a massive loss I feel. With a return date for Love still not clear, we really don’t have many options with Godfrey being so young.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Love get the 10 jersey when he comes back, he’s better than Morgan. Shift Jordie to fullback and push PUJ in one to 12 to partner Proctor.
We also need to boot Julian Savea, he’s so bad on defence now and Naholo is way more of a weapon anyway.
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Winger Lakai didn't do himself any favours though. IIRC, he was the one dropping the ball after catching it in the line-out; the Chiefs then kicked the ball and it ended up in a Chiefs try at the other end.
I feel like the Canes are doing Lakai an injustice, he’s so bloody young yet they keep switching him from open-side to number 8, to 6. We need to play him consistently in one position, instead of moving him around so much.
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@Canes4life Barrett I can't see him returning to FB.
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@Winger said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@Tim said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Chiefs dominated the ball in the 2nd half. Canes need new loose forwards.
Both Kirifi and Flanders (and lock Bird) were taken off. Bird was replaced by a loosie (Howden). Kirifi and Flanders by Iose and Lakai.
Canes need a top quality new head coach. Holland is not up to it. Find a great (as opposed to an OK) head coach and they might compete with the best teams
Chiefs look the real deal this year. They made the Canes look 2nd rate in the 2nd half. Losing Cameron was a big loss along with Proctor. Moorby looks OK but not good enough. Hopefully Love is back soon
But our lineout was well beaten after Bird was replaced (we need a taller lock in the replacements). And if Kirifi was replaced it should have been by Lakai. Its little thing like this that stuffs the team. I would have also had Higgins in the replacements so he could have come on at center and then Moorby can be taken off
Lol mate with those words of wisdom are you the top quality coach we need???
Don't worry taking the piss mate!! I just think we beaten by beeter team, and obviously would like a different result, but am genuinely not that pissed.
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Benches made a difference. Holland's substitutions explain why the Canes always fade in the 2nd half.
Chiefs brought on size, Finau, Ah Kuoi, etc.. & as usual Holland brought on his troop of lightweights...
Put Howden on (an undersized 6) for Bird, Iose for Flanders. Holland's selections are exasperating.
