All Blacks vs Wales
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@sparky a one man backrow today as Reffell and Tips were pretty anonymous.
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Just watched replay. Some great forward muscle. Ardie was an absolute beast. Was hoping that this tour would be something of a breakthrough for Frizell (maybe similar to Kaino laying waste 2010) but he's just not very effective.
Definitely not a day for the outside backs so I'll give CC a pass despite him looking like a headless chicken with tits for hands.
Jordie was solid as furk at 12. Massive difference with him there. Doubters again consume large portion of shįt burger.
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@pooler-fan Rate them both but they took a long time to get into the game today. Tomas Williams and Rees-Zammit also looked out of sorts.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Just watched replay. Some great forward muscle. Ardie was an absolute beast. Was hoping that this tour would be something of a breakthrough for Frizell (maybe similar to Kaino laying waste 2010) but he's just not very effective.
Definitely not a day for the outside backs so I'll give CC a pass despite him looking like a headless chicken with tits for hands.
Jordie was solid as furk at 12. Massive difference with him there. Doubters again consume large portion of shįt burger.
Beaudy was rocks and diamonds to, charge down versus one handed pick up
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Just watching now. First exit and another box kick that we can't recover, put us on the back foot straight away. Why do we persist with them over a decent touch finder?
We recovered the second one but the result was far better when JB and RM belted the ball deep
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Just watched replay. Some great forward muscle. Ardie was an absolute beast. Was hoping that this tour would be something of a breakthrough for Frizell (maybe similar to Kaino laying waste 2010) but he's just not very effective.
Definitely not a day for the outside backs so I'll give CC a pass despite him looking like a headless chicken with tits for hands.
Jordie was solid as furk at 12. Massive difference with him there. Doubters again consume large portion of shįt burger.
Beaudy was rocks and diamonds to, charge down versus one handed pick up
That charge down was ugly. He needs to give RM a hj for saving his arse. I'm liking the balance though. They're getting there.
What I didn't like was the first half tactic of Smith doing that box kick following every restart. It was completely ineffective and only served to give the Welsh the ball back in decent field position. Either put the fůcker out or ram it down field.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Just watching now. First exit and another box kick that we can't recover, put us on the back foot straight away. Why do we persist with them over a decent touch finder?
We recovered the second one but the result was far better when JB and RM belted the ball deep
Snap. Beat me to it.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Neither Clarke or Reece looked sharp today. Not that it mattered.
How about for Edinburgh ALB to 13, Reiko Ioane to 11, Stevenson to 14?
Clarke shells a Welsh cross kick losing an opportunity to make a break at 8 mins 😕
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Just watching now. First exit and another box kick that we can't recover, put us on the back foot straight away. Why do we persist with them over a decent touch finder?
We recovered the second one but the result was far better when JB and RM belted the ball deep
Snap. Beat me to it.
Great minds and all that 😉
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Just watched replay. Some great forward muscle. Ardie was an absolute beast. Was hoping that this tour would be something of a breakthrough for Frizell (maybe similar to Kaino laying waste 2010) but he's just not very effective.
Definitely not a day for the outside backs so I'll give CC a pass despite him looking like a headless chicken with tits for hands.
Jordie was solid as furk at 12. Massive difference with him there. Doubters again consume large portion of shįt burger.
Beaudy was rocks and diamonds to, charge down versus one handed pick up
That charge down was ugly. He needs to give RM a hj for saving his arse. I'm liking the balance though. They're getting there.
What I didn't like was the first half tactic of Smith doing that box kick following every restart. It was completely ineffective and only served to give the Welsh the ball back in decent field position. Either put the fůcker out or ram it down field.
Second jordie try was all Beaudy tho, awesome
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Wales:
@JC said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Barnes was inventing breakdown infringements for the ABs that he let Wales get away with. Fact. And despite looking multiple times at Tipuric’s ball control over the line, we waved the try through. He’s a mediocre ref.
"Fact" eh? I think you prove my case.
The whole Tipuric "not having control" is a case in point. There is no requirement that a player have control of the ball to score a try. My copy of rules even has a picture showing that a person lying on the ball has scored. The only thing that matters is was the ball propelled forward from Tipuric's hand prior to the line, and so a knock-on. That he lost control in goal is utterly irrelevant (indeed the Try Law doesn't even mention the concept of control).
So bleating about the ref being an idiot, when you don't know the rules.
I’m not getting into arguments about the laws. Barnes said he was checking for control, then decided there was when there wasn’t. Maybe ask him.
Your point was that we don’t criticise the NZ players and blame the ref instead. There is plenty of criticism. It’s possible to point out Barnes’s inconsistency and also the All Blacks. Most people here have been putting the boot into the ABs all year. How have you missed that?
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Was surprised at how forward oriented the approach was. Thought all the AB's played well except for Clarke. I rewatched some of his plays and think he is way out of synch with his positioning and lack of agility. Takes himself out of the defence regularly by over running or falling over. Average hands too.
For me we need to try JB and ALB in midfield and Rieko on the wing. But happy if Telea gets a deserved chance v Scotland.
Frizzell had good workrate but is not driving through tackles as well as he could. So Akira had the chance but failed to make the big efforts. Maybe Blackadder will be best option next year.
Aaron Smith and Savea were marvellous and a lot of very good touches from Jordie. Love his presence and impact at 12.
Taylor much more accurate today and Mounga too. Onwards and upwards.
I thought Barnes reffed well although some breakdown penalties seemed to surprise many. -
@JC said in All Blacks vs Wales:
Your point was that we don’t criticise the NZ players and blame the ref instead. There is plenty of criticism. It’s possible to point out Barnes’s inconsistency and also the All Blacks. Most people here have been putting the boot into the ABs all year. How have you missed that?
I never said that there was no criticism of players. You have read that into my post all by yourself.
I only said that the continued assertions that we are being cheated by the refs remind me very much of my time on Keo, and I find it tiresome.
