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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    🗞 UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    So many people's midfield great white hope is out, foster needs to pick and stick until the RWC

    Sadly Ennor is still there to make up numbers though.

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  • WingerW Offline
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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:

    Yeah ok. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he played at 12 for the NZ U20 and won player of the year in that position for Canterbury.

    This is not correct. He started most of his games at fullback for Canterbury. He also had some starts at 12 and one at 13, but his primary position was fullback

    He initially started the season at FB, but was then 12 and he ended at 13 because Goodhue was injured. Regardless, the combo he formed with Goodhue looked really good and I wish he'd stayed down there to continue that. I've always said that I would rather him play at 12 for the Saders than 15 for the Canes.

    Why? Do you want all the ABs to play for the Saders? Super rugby should be a standalone competition IMHO not just a feeder for the ABs.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @Machpants I think Goodhue just needs time to get his body right, but I think AB rugby may have passed him by unfortunately, although I think his class is there to see with his game and his organisation on defence is a huge factor.

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    🗞 UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    So many people's midfield great white hope is out, foster needs to pick and stick until the RWC

    Maybe. And agree we need to give one combination lots of game time. But its always good to have back-ups with test experience in case of injuries.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    🗞 UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    So many people's midfield great white hope is out, foster needs to pick and stick until the RWC

    Sadly Ennor is still there to make up numbers though.

    Interesting that Schmidt has taken over his Selectors role and a role in the attack, Ennor is retained.

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    🗞 UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    Wow. That is a big call.
    One I support but they managed to slide that in the middle of the statement.
    Basically dumped and we are going to invest elsewhere.

    Yep or just as likely feel they need more play to get match fitness. As I said I was quite happy to see Newell and Lomax stay there, and suspect this could just to be see how things go with them?

    It was interesting to hear Foster perk up and agree when asked after the JoBurg game whether we'd just seen the future of the AB propping stocks.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by Bovidae
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    Wow. That is a big call.
    One I support but they managed to slide that in the middle of the statement.

    Maybe they just referenced each player alphabetically by their first name. Nah, I'm not giving the NZR comms team that much credit.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by taniwharugby
    #3731

    @Chris I dont there is any denying the potential he offers with his pace and skills, but he has had plenty of chances and not really taken them, hopefully a different voice might see him realise this potential.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris I dont there is any denying the potential he offers with his pace and skills, but he has had plenty of chances and not really taken them, hopefully a different voice might see him realise this potential.

    I don't think he commands a place in the AB's as of now.
    Does a good Job at SR level and below.

    I find it interesting Schmidt must rate him as well.I wouldn't have him there on current form.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris oh I agree, but like you say, Schmidt clearly sees what others have before him, so hopefully he can help push his buttons.

    It is quite amazing how a different voice saying the same things, but from a different angle can suddenly hit home for some.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris oh I agree, but like you say, Schmidt clearly sees what others have before him, so hopefully he can help push his buttons.

    It is quite amazing how a different voice saying the same things, but from a different angle can suddenly hit home for some.

    No doubt new voices have big impact if they are the right voices.

    I am hoping to see more of that in the RC.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    🗞 UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    So many people's midfield great white hope is out, foster needs to pick and stick until the RWC

    Sadly Ennor is still there to make up numbers though.

    Interesting that Schmidt has taken over his Selectors role and a role in the attack, Ennor is retained.

    To be honest though, who else is there?
    I think Ennor is there as a stopgap but if they think they can stop his tits for hands and slow decision making because of his physical attributes then good for him.
    I cant see selectors going deeper outside the squad in an area they are trying to cement anyway with a near cert like ALB still to return.
    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    🗞 UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    So many people's midfield great white hope is out, foster needs to pick and stick until the RWC

    Sadly Ennor is still there to make up numbers though.

    Interesting that Schmidt has taken over his Selectors role and a role in the attack, Ennor is retained.

    To be honest though, who else is there?
    I think Ennor is there as a stopgap but if they think they can stop his tits for hands and slow decision making because of his physical attributes then good for him.
    I cant see selectors going deeper outside the squad in an area they are trying to cement anyway with a near cert like ALB still to return.
    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

    Probably not a lot unless you give TUJ OR B Sullivan a crack.

    For Me Ennor and RTS should be playing NPC to develop.
    It seems like 35 in the squad is a bit over kill,Especially when we are playing at Home 3/4 games.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    🗞 UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    So many people's midfield great white hope is out, foster needs to pick and stick until the RWC

    Sadly Ennor is still there to make up numbers though.

    Interesting that Schmidt has taken over his Selectors role and a role in the attack, Ennor is retained.

    To be honest though, who else is there?
    I think Ennor is there as a stopgap but if they think they can stop his tits for hands and slow decision making because of his physical attributes then good for him.
    I cant see selectors going deeper outside the squad in an area they are trying to cement anyway with a near cert like ALB still to return.
    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

    Probably not a lot unless you give TUJ OR B Sullivan a crack.

    For Me Ennor and RTS should be playing NPC to develop.
    It seems like 35 in the squad is a bit over kill,Especially when we are playing at Home 3/4 games.

    Yep. No reason to give TUJ and BS a go. They may get their chance in the AB XV.
    Altough BS had a chance to show worth against Ireland and botched it.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    🗞 UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    So many people's midfield great white hope is out, foster needs to pick and stick until the RWC

    Sadly Ennor is still there to make up numbers though.

    Interesting that Schmidt has taken over his Selectors role and a role in the attack, Ennor is retained.

    To be honest though, who else is there?
    I think Ennor is there as a stopgap but if they think they can stop his tits for hands and slow decision making because of his physical attributes then good for him.
    I cant see selectors going deeper outside the squad in an area they are trying to cement anyway with a near cert like ALB still to return.
    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

    Probably not a lot unless you give TUJ OR B Sullivan a crack.

    For Me Ennor and RTS should be playing NPC to develop.
    It seems like 35 in the squad is a bit over kill,Especially when we are playing at Home 3/4 games.

    Yep. No reason to give TUJ and BS a go. They may get their chance in the AB XV.
    Altough BS had a chance to show worth against Ireland and botched it.

    That AB XV is going to be very interesting,To see where the coaches are heading with the future.

    Will it be mixture of youth and experience or all young players.

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  • WingerW Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

    Come on. The TV commentators rave about him so this can't be right

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  • WingerW Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    Will it be mixture of youth and experience or all young players.

    I would say a mix

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Winger on last edited by
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    @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

    Come on. The TV commentators rave about him so this can't be right

    I can't actually see the point of selecting him in the first place except for promotion.
    He was always going to be third choice behind Havili and Tupaea and doesn't have enough union experience to convert him to covering 13 (like they have QT).
    He was basically there as a hail mary option that didn't get used.

    So much of the eventual gameplan revolved around Havili playing well, they had to persevere.

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    Some more details on the injuries etc

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