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    @kiwiinmelb said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @no-quarter said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    Jordie didn't lead with his foot, he kicked it out instinctively at the last second trying to avoid landing on his back.

    I remember When Billy slater was on the same charge ,

    Then someone with too much time on his hands made a video of him doing exactly the same thing with nobody anywhere near him ,

    dangerous and deliberate are two different things

    Slater was a grub though so not surprised people thought the worse. He was the king of sliding feet first into players diving to score tries.

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    @no-quarter said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @kiwiinmelb said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @no-quarter said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    Jordie didn't lead with his foot, he kicked it out instinctively at the last second trying to avoid landing on his back.

    I remember When Billy slater was on the same charge ,

    Then someone with too much time on his hands made a video of him doing exactly the same thing with nobody anywhere near him ,

    dangerous and deliberate are two different things

    Slater was a grub though so not surprised people thought the worse. He was the king of sliding feet first into players diving to score tries.

    I hated him for that. Jordie on the other hand had a spotless record

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by taniwharugby
    #1311

    @crucial said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    You can't be acting recklessly if you are acting deliberately

    and yet in the eyes of the law when in charge of a motor vehicle, if you are charged with reckless driving, it is deemed that your actions were deliberate or that you knew exactly what you were doing (Careless to Dangerous to Reckless) and you will very likely also end up with your insurer declining your claim if the charge was the result of an accident

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by Stargazer
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    @crucial said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    That Ferald article still seems to be the only news. Must have had some inside sauce overnight and everyone else is waiting on Perth to wake up.

    I saw Andrew Mulligan tweet the outcome, early this morning, but he deleted the tweet, so I couldn't post it.

    This is the stuff article.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126315375/all-blacks-fullback-jordie-barrett-reportedly-escapes-further-ban-for-red-card

    A Sanzaar spokesman confirmed to Stuff a statement was due out from the judiciary around noon (NZT).

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    @stargazer said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @crucial said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    That Ferald article still seems to be the only news. Must have had some inside sauce overnight and everyone else is waiting on Perth to wake up.

    I saw Andrew Mulligan tweet the outcome, early this morning, but he deleted the tweet, so I couldn't post it.

    This is the stuff article.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126315375/all-blacks-fullback-jordie-barrett-reportedly-escapes-further-ban-for-red-card

    A Sanzaar spokesman confirmed to Stuff a statement was due out from the judiciary around noon (NZT).

    Awesome if true.
    REALLY want to see the end of DMac at 15 for a while.
    Completely unconcerned with justice.
    (if it were DMac for the exact same offence I would support a ban for a few weeks)

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    @frank said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @stargazer said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @crucial said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    That Ferald article still seems to be the only news. Must have had some inside sauce overnight and everyone else is waiting on Perth to wake up.

    I saw Andrew Mulligan tweet the outcome, early this morning, but he deleted the tweet, so I couldn't post it.

    This is the stuff article.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126315375/all-blacks-fullback-jordie-barrett-reportedly-escapes-further-ban-for-red-card

    A Sanzaar spokesman confirmed to Stuff a statement was due out from the judiciary around noon (NZT).

    Awesome if true.
    REALLY want to see the end of DMac at 15 for a while.
    Completely unconcerned with justice.
    (if it were DMac for the exact same offence I would support a ban for a few weeks)

    Unbelievable - but this is the fern....

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    wrote on last edited by
    #1315

    There's some information here around the decision.

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    @kiwimurph so basically it shouldn't have been a red card? Who'd be a ref these days.

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    @kirwan said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @kiwimurph so basically it shouldn't have been a red card? Who'd be a ref these days.

    After them saying that intent doesn't matter, now it does? Fun job.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @kirwan I guess the judicial process differs from the Reffing body, hopefully they dont publically hang him out like they did when reversed the one Gardner issued when BB was tackled in the air.

    If they agree it shouldnt have been issued, deal with it like any employee review.

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    #1319

    Media release on allblacks dot com:

    JORDIE BARRETT RED CARD OFFENCE DISMISSED

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    #1320

    This is saying that basically give a player landing at least a metre space until the land, which is a good thing

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    @kirwan said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @kiwimurph so basically it shouldn't have been a red card? Who'd be a ref these days.

    Another reason I think the report system from NRL makes more sense, we are putting a lot of pressure on the refs/tmo to make quick decisions that can have a major impact. I would be curious to know the stats of how often reds are not deemed reds by the panel afterwards. If it happens on a regular basis then we are accepting a certain number of reds are not warranted.

    I think I would almost prefer a Yellow, Orange and Red system. Yellow is 10 mins bin, Orange is 10 min bin and replace player. Red is only for foul play like it used to be, ear biting eye gouging stuff.

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    replied to chimoaus on last edited by
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    @chimoaus I presume under the current rules that if you get sent off for e.g. eye-gouging, you still get replaced after 20 minutes?

    If so - I don't agree with that. A red card for filth should last out the 80 minutes.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @chris-b but then what if it's proven incorrect at the hearing?

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    replied to chimoaus on last edited by
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    @chimoaus not sure there was alot of immediate pressure, and he consulted with his TMO.

    @Chris-B problem there is, the ref would then need to determine if it was a grub act, I mean reading social media (I know, I know) plenty said what he did was a grub act, deliberate blah blah...

    I think 20 mins is a good long period to be 1 man down, then punish the player, not the team and fans.

    We are trying to keep people attracted to the game, people dont want to see 14 v 15 for 70 mins, and if you pay $100 to go see a game, for it to become farcical due to a controversial RC doesnt paint the game in a good way

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  • boobooB Offline
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    replied to ARHS on last edited by
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    @arhs said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @frank said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @stargazer said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @crucial said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    That Ferald article still seems to be the only news. Must have had some inside sauce overnight and everyone else is waiting on Perth to wake up.

    I saw Andrew Mulligan tweet the outcome, early this morning, but he deleted the tweet, so I couldn't post it.

    This is the stuff article.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126315375/all-blacks-fullback-jordie-barrett-reportedly-escapes-further-ban-for-red-card

    A Sanzaar spokesman confirmed to Stuff a statement was due out from the judiciary around noon (NZT).

    Awesome if true.
    REALLY want to see the end of DMac at 15 for a while.
    Completely unconcerned with justice.
    (if it were DMac for the exact same offence I would support a ban for a few weeks)

    Unbelievable - but this is the fern....

    DDS

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @kiwimurph said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    There's some information here around the decision.

    Aaron Lloyd's response to that tweet:

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  • boobooB Offline
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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @kirwan said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @kiwimurph so basically it shouldn't have been a red card? Who'd be a ref these days.

    Well it shouldn't have been...

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #1328

    @bones Same as with Jordie's one, I guess. Gives everyone something to talk about for a few days.

    Colin Meads was apparently pretty startled when he got sent off.

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