Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..)
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@machpants said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@billy-tell said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@bones said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@billy-tell this guy flaunting his higher education
English 6th Form Certificate - Final Exam, third term: All Blacks (30 points)
Candidates are required to discuss the following topic "Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..)"
Candidates have 60 minutes in which to formulate their response. Word limit 1000 words. Marks will be awarded for clear structure, original ideas and sound reasoning. Any references must be cited at the end of the essay. Black or blue-point pen only. Any corrections should be clearly indicated.
Yeah nah.
NCEA 2 old man š
Is that the new system where you get a little gold star and a āgood workā sticker for participating?
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@billy-tell said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@machpants said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@billy-tell said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@bones said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@billy-tell this guy flaunting his higher education
English 6th Form Certificate - Final Exam, third term: All Blacks (30 points)
Candidates are required to discuss the following topic "Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..)"
Candidates have 60 minutes in which to formulate their response. Word limit 1000 words. Marks will be awarded for clear structure, original ideas and sound reasoning. Any references must be cited at the end of the essay. Black or blue-point pen only. Any corrections should be clearly indicated.
Yeah nah.
NCEA 2 old man š
Is that the new system where you get a little gold star and a āgood workā sticker for participating?
And you can't use red pen to mark it.
Both my boys have passed this year already (level 1 and 3), and they've not even sat their externals. Easy life
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@yeahtheboys said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Iām sick of some of you eye-patch āsupportersā hating on certain players and cherry picking everything about them.
I don't think that's the case though. @kiwi_expat has clearly set out why he thinks both Ardie and DMac are undersized. Not being parochial at all - but assessing what they see in the game.
I don't disagree. Jordie's size and boot offers something different. We should be looking at how we'll go against physically confrontational teams - and when you get into that battle (on a good day England, SA, Lions, Aus , France) then size does become important. So I have sympathy for the view -and I think DMac brings a lot to the table, particularly off the bench. You can't coach speed, and he's got it.
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DMacās best position is probably 10, not that different a player than RM. awesome with front foot ball, probably edges RM at super level at kicking a team around the park.
Neither has shown that ability at Test level, but score or set up exciting trys. If plan A doesnāt work, cupboard is bare.
Similar goal kicking too.
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@bones said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@yeahtheboys said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
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As for some of the rest of it, esp about weight, Jacobson is only a few kg heavier (if you believe any of the weights on the internet). Some players also punch well above their weight in terms of impact. Sam Cane is one of them.
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@yeahtheboys said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
have Jordies cock stuck down your throat.
Yeah nothing āeye patchā about that one. Iād say zero self-awareness but that would be far too kind.
On the Ardie thing. Heās not out of position at 8 any more because he plays there so often. But heās not the best test level option there. Imho thatās Jacobsen. Ardie is a brilliant bench option though.
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@kiwi_expat said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Spencer-like players in McKenzie & B.Barrett for their dual-playmaker axis in 2018 over Mo'unga
ah, Richie Mo'unga is the Carlos Spencer you buy from Wish
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@yeahtheboys said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Iām sick of some of you eye-patch āsupportersā hating on certain players and cherry picking everything about them
fuck i so totally agree with it.
I believe two things:
Some of you have entrenched bias, and can't see past that when evaluating a players worth to the side
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all the Barretts are shit and should stick to Super Rugby
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DMac hasn't
dominatedbeen good since his injury.I can't recall the last time Ardie had a positive impact in Test rugby.
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McKenzie is pretty good positionally in general I reckon. Better than Jordie, though he's not bad either.
He's small, and he runs sideways when nothing is on. His decisions when things are on, are generally good. If nothing is on and you're a midget, buying some time by running sideways isn't actually the worst option, even though it is ugly as fuuuuck to watch.
Fact is Foster seems set on the dual playmaker, and McKenzie probably is the best of them in that role. -
while we are having this discussion, again
DMac is far better under the high ball than he is given credit for. It's not just about being tall guys.
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@mariner4life said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@yeahtheboys said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Iām sick of some of you eye-patch āsupportersā hating on certain players and cherry picking everything about them
fuck i so totally agree with it.
I believe two things:
Some of you have entrenched bias, and can't see past that when evaluating a players worth to the side
and
all the Barretts are shit and should stick to Super Rugby
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@kiwi_expat I think you are way off beam in your analysis. Have you ever watched how opposition backlines react to DMacs field coverage? He constantly creates threats, and stretches the opposition to counter, popping up across the width of the park. I would have thought that wore down the opposition to some degree. Not sure how you and others regard him as such a liability in everything he does at high level.
Jordie is a great player and I think he could be a world class 12, but the Hurricanes make him play a certain type of game at 15 only, to cover limitations around him. He does that extremely well.
It is staggering to see how there is a huge outcry again about 15 when that is not what the Aussie comeback or heavy penalty count for AB's was all about.
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@yeahtheboys well said!
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@arhs said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@kiwi_expat I think you are way off beam in your analysis. Have you ever watched how opposition backlines react to DMacs field coverage? He constantly creates threats, and stretches the opposition to counter, popping up across the width of the park. I would have thought that wore down the opposition to some degree. Not sure how you and others regard him as such a liability in everything he does at high level.
thats not untrue....but i dont think he converts anywhere near as many as he should, he might stretch the defence and then throw a hospital pass or not see what he's created and take it into contact whilst isolated...maybe he's not tall enough too see everything
that why what he does, in my mind, works so much better as an impact when the team is tired, doing what he does in the first 20min with fresh jackles is dangerous
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@arhs said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@kiwi_expat I think you are way off beam in your analysis. Have you ever watched how opposition backlines react to DMacs field coverage? He constantly creates threats, and stretches the opposition to counter, popping up across the width of the park. I would have thought that wore down the opposition to some degree. Not sure how you and others regard him as such a liability in everything he does at high level.
We're talking about Test rugby here. The one where he constantly goes backwards or runs away from support so our forwards have to go backwards to support him, or he gives hospital passes to avoid getting tackled.
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@antipodean said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@arhs said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@kiwi_expat I think you are way off beam in your analysis. Have you ever watched how opposition backlines react to DMacs field coverage? He constantly creates threats, and stretches the opposition to counter, popping up across the width of the park. I would have thought that wore down the opposition to some degree. Not sure how you and others regard him as such a liability in everything he does at high level.
We're talking about Test rugby here. The one where he constantly goes backwards or runs away from support so our forwards have to go backwards to support him, or he gives hospital passes to avoid getting tackled.
He did that at least three times last test, looked flash but ABs ended up in s much worse position afterwards. It's really ineffective and undesirable at international level. Foster & Aaron specifically pointed out going wide to early, and DMac as one of the decision makers was one of the worst for that
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@machpants its also hard to anticipate so the other backs seem to struggle to be in the right position IF he does create something
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I do find it funny that we spend so much time pissing around about 15, when our problems are with our go forward up front, our discipline, and our strategy/tactics which are the primary responsibility of our main playmaker.
Iām really starting to wonder whether Moāunga can drive a team around the field - they seem set on having others there to help him do his job.
