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    @Bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @nzzp said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    I'm not picking on Ngani here.

    Well it certainly looked like you were saying he doesn't try to enhance any of his skills, is lazy and doesn't train...

    that's a long bow to draw.

    Was more of a grumpy old man rant at all professional players - kicking is such a useful skill to have, there's no excuse in my brain to not be working on it. Over time, it must get better - and when you have to pull one out in a game, it won't be terrible.

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    @nzzp well you seem to know more than I do about their kicking training 😬 I would have assumed most of them do, but most of them are probably given instruction on what's expected of them on the field and it probably doesn't always include kicking...

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    @nzzp not quite as bad as a hooker having a poor throw or a 9 having a poor pass, but i get your point.

    @Bones yeah I think alot of these guys are playing to a plan, but given how we have played, are they failing to execute or, is the plan just a bit poor?

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    @taniwharugby said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @Higgins well I didnt recognise any of the names I saw on FB as being any of our coaches, but I guess online we can be whoever we want.

    I know we have low expectations of Fozzie but surely he could work out how to post under someone elses name? Even if it's just by using his missus account...

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    @Bovidae but has he picked up injuries along the way? e.g. concussions and collision injuries He doesn't seem quite so keen to hit and run hard as often as when he burst on to the scene. Is that maybe why the migration to centre?

    I like the look of Tua from Northland.

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    @ARHS said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    I like the look of Tua from Northland.

    Unfortunately he's set to miss super rugby due to surgery recovery.

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    Shame. There won't be much midfield depth in super rugby if any more injuries. I think Poihipi, Tofa, Timu, J Little, Garland and maybe Fomai could make the step up, but none are absolute 'must picks'.

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    @ARHS Yeah, I think Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might fit in that category too.

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    @ARHS said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @Bovidae but has he picked up injuries along the way? e.g. concussions and collision injuries He doesn't seem quite so keen to hit and run hard as often as when he burst on to the scene. Is that maybe why the migration to centre?

    I'm not aware of any major injuries, although he did acknowledge that SR was tough (mentally and physically). For the Chiefs, Tupaea played at centre because they obviously wanted ALB at 2nd 5, and ended up on the wing occasionally if injuries struck. That doesn't explain why he and Sullivan were supposedly playing in the wrong positions for Waikato. Only the coaches know that reason.

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    @Tim said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @ARHS said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    I like the look of Tua from Northland.

    Unfortunately he's set to miss super rugby due to surgery recovery.

    I bet he provides the kind of punch the selectors are looking for

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    @Bovidae said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @ARHS said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @Bovidae but has he picked up injuries along the way? e.g. concussions and collision injuries He doesn't seem quite so keen to hit and run hard as often as when he burst on to the scene. Is that maybe why the migration to centre?

    I'm not aware of any major injuries, although he did acknowledge that SR was tough (mentally and physically). For the Chiefs, Tupaea played at centre because they obviously wanted ALB at 2nd 5, and ended up on the wing occasionally if injuries struck. That doesn't explain why he and Sullivan were supposedly playing in the wrong positions for Waikato. Only the coaches know that reason.

    That one is really frustrating, and I agree that I'd like to see him used closer to the action. Let's hope that the Chiefs coaches are reading your posts...

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    When will Charlie Ngatai be back in the country? Problem solved instantly!

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    @Higgins said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    When will Charlie Ngatai be back in the country? Problem solved instantly!

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    @Higgins said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    When will Charlie Ngatai be back in the country? Problem solved instantly!

    Davild Havili is the new Charlie Ngatai...

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    I've just watched Lyon vs Stade Français. Ngatai was solid but did not set the world on fire. The best NZer on the field was Toby Arnold. He is really thriving in the Top 14, fast and always taking the good options.

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    @junior said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    Mate, did you watch the opening minutes of our RWC semi final?

    We should use the crash on the fact in one game we failed to tackle well? That's bizarre.

    (We just watched a series of games where all the Argies did was smash it up, and it proved singularly uneffective. Luckily for them, our strategy was worse, but that does not make theirs good. )

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    Back on topic, the short answer is fuck-all, isn't it?
    That's why they've been trying to shoe-horn Goodhue in there all year. They picked the wrong one of the two good midfielders to move, but you can see the reasoning at least. Can't see any reasoning in the outside backs.
    Laumape deserved a shot on form but was injured, then got one go and didn't do much outside an out of position fullback and one of the worst AB halfback performances you could ever hope not to see. I'm not a fan of his style of play, but that's pretty harsh on a bloke who has been a real stand-out at the level below, and made a number of his team-mates look pretty stupid this year.

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    George Moala in several European Cup team of week selections at 12.

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    Moala ain't coming back.

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    @mofitzy_ said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    Moala ain't coming back.

    Should never have been let go.

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