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Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    on half backs

    if we're going to give them so little time, why not have a young bloke coming through

    TJ and Weber have been around for a while and havent been able to unseat Smith...identify a successor, someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right

    Also we are assuming Smith is going to be around for ever. He is approaching 100 tests assume his goal will be 2023 so fingers crossed he can maintain his high levels of performance and stay injury free. I agree we should start looking at new blood like Fakatava

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Fakatava

    Shame hes in the same team as Smith. As hes got mUCh better with game time in the NPC

    Perenara lets things get to him during a game. Its then when he does the silly stuff. I wonder if leading the haka is the best thing for him. Maybe let someone else do it so he can start a bit calmer

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    Fakatava is an obvious one as, assuming the Landers have re signed him, as he gets to learn form smith all year long

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    @Kiwiwomble did someone say he is not yet qualified to play for NZ, and may even opt for Tonga (which IMO is the best route if he is still awaiting qualification)

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Fakatava is an obvious one as, assuming the Landers have re signed him, as he gets to learn form smith all year long

    That's a good point, but better than more game time? Dunno.

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    @taniwharugby google says he moved to NZ four years ago...whats the timeframes?

    @Snowy im hoping the Landers realise smith wont be around for ever too and so will start giving Fakatava more gametime

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    @Kiwiwomble qualification clock doesnt start until he leaves school I think.

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    @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

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    @Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

    Still got to do the residency time I think. Can't just become a citizen and play for adopted country as far as I know. Olympic anomoly aside.

    3 Year rule is still in force until end of this year then it goes to 5.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

    No, citizenship has nothing to do with WR qualification process.

    If on scholarship, and family home is not in NZ then it doesn't count towards residency. So time starts from when leaves school (and is a self-supporting adult).

    Whether he qualifies in 3 years or 5 years will come down to a bit of lucky timing. The 5 year got pushed back a year because some poor petals might not complete their being poached on time - because of potentially cancelled tests this November due to covid.

    Americas Rugby News  /  Aug 10, 2020

    World Rugby extends Residency Eligibility window - Americas Rugby News

    World Rugby extends Residency Eligibility window - Americas Rugby News

    World Rugby have confirmed a one-year extension of their previously-approved amendment to international eligibility criteria. The May 2017 decision to change Regulation 8 from a 36-month residency qualification period to 60 months will now come into effect on January 1, 2022, one year later than...

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    I think he'll be 5 years. Which gives us time to sort out his hair, if he were to come over to the darkness. But I'd prefer he played for Tonga.

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    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Which gives us time to sort out his hair,

    Nice.

    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    I'd prefer he played for Tonga.

    I think that we are going to need him.

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    who else then if we have to wait a few years?

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    How is TTT? Genuine question. Haven't seen him play this year.

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.

    Yes. Unless the rules have changed again it will be like Reece, who needed to wait 3 years after leaving school.

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    Just realised Fakatava plays for Dunedin (my old club), so he plays for the magpies but doesn't have a local club? i guess club rugby lines up with the super calendar better, never really giving it much thought

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    I really think they need to look at Nock, I think he'd fit the AB's game well.

    He's quick, has a slick pass, good running game, and a great kicking game.

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    @Gunner Nock 2020 is much better than previous versions. Leon seems to have the squad working hard in the offseason, and it's driving onfield performance.

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    replied to Snowy on last edited by chimoaus
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    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right

    Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.

    Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.

    Roe for Waikato has been pretty electric around the ruck with some lovely running and deft passing. I havent seen a lot of him but what I did see was a player with plenty of confidence to play and seems to read the game well. Deserves some minutes in super rugby.

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    @chimoaus He has a powerful repertoire of kicks also, and seems to direct the forwards as they approach a breakdown, to improve options.

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