Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November
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@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I'll buy into your whataboutery when you can show me one example of an AB halfback doing a dummy run off the back of a ruck while someone else picks and runs the other direction.
Fine I'll go dig into my library of every AB ruck in history and pick you the best ones...
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on half backs
if we're going to give them so little time, why not have a young bloke coming through
TJ and Weber have been around for a while and havent been able to unseat Smith...identify a successor, someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right
Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.
Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.
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@Kiwiwomble based on what I have seen in this years M10 Cup, Fakatava and Nock would be the 9's I'd like to see more of, but sadly both have had limited chances at Super level for various reasons, although being back up at your Super team doesnt always stop you getting into the big kids team!
Fakatava has a good passing game and very strong defensively, Nock has a great passing game, kicking game is up there, very quick and seems to be defending more this year too.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
on half backs
if we're going to give them so little time, why not have a young bloke coming through
TJ and Weber have been around for a while and havent been able to unseat Smith...identify a successor, someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right
Also we are assuming Smith is going to be around for ever. He is approaching 100 tests assume his goal will be 2023 so fingers crossed he can maintain his high levels of performance and stay injury free. I agree we should start looking at new blood like Fakatava
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Fakatava
Shame hes in the same team as Smith. As hes got mUCh better with game time in the NPC
Perenara lets things get to him during a game. Its then when he does the silly stuff. I wonder if leading the haka is the best thing for him. Maybe let someone else do it so he can start a bit calmer
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Fakatava is an obvious one as, assuming the Landers have re signed him, as he gets to learn form smith all year long
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@Kiwiwomble did someone say he is not yet qualified to play for NZ, and may even opt for Tonga (which IMO is the best route if he is still awaiting qualification)
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Fakatava is an obvious one as, assuming the Landers have re signed him, as he gets to learn form smith all year long
That's a good point, but better than more game time? Dunno.
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@taniwharugby google says he moved to NZ four years ago...whats the timeframes?
@Snowy im hoping the Landers realise smith wont be around for ever too and so will start giving Fakatava more gametime
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@Kiwiwomble qualification clock doesnt start until he leaves school I think.
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@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
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@Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
Still got to do the residency time I think. Can't just become a citizen and play for adopted country as far as I know. Olympic anomoly aside.
3 Year rule is still in force until end of this year then it goes to 5.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
No, citizenship has nothing to do with WR qualification process.
If on scholarship, and family home is not in NZ then it doesn't count towards residency. So time starts from when leaves school (and is a self-supporting adult).
Whether he qualifies in 3 years or 5 years will come down to a bit of lucky timing. The 5 year got pushed back a year because some poor petals might not complete their being poached on time - because of potentially cancelled tests this November due to covid.
.World Rugby extends Residency Eligibility window - Americas Rugby News
World Rugby have confirmed a one-year extension of their previously-approved amendment to international eligibility criteria. The May 2017 decision to change Regulation 8 from a 36-month residency qualification period to 60 months will now come into effect on January 1, 2022, one year later than...
I think he'll be 5 years. Which gives us time to sort out his hair, if he were to come over to the darkness. But I'd prefer he played for Tonga.
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@Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Which gives us time to sort out his hair,
Nice.
@Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I'd prefer he played for Tonga.
I think that we are going to need him.
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who else then if we have to wait a few years?
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.
Yes. Unless the rules have changed again it will be like Reece, who needed to wait 3 years after leaving school.
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Just realised Fakatava plays for Dunedin (my old club), so he plays for the magpies but doesn't have a local club? i guess club rugby lines up with the super calendar better, never really giving it much thought
