'Super Rugby' 2021
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@shark I am not doubting there will be a loss in revenue, but there is no proof it will be a giant's portion of it. We just don't know and are re-hashing what used to be the case. Looking at the cost of air travel to/from SA, in the current climate, that is going to make a massive -prohibitive?- difference. Argentina is right out. I've said before a lot of the value is selling to international, non SANZAAR, nations - and there the NZ teams are a big draw. Everyone I know in the UK as rugby fans knows and likes watching SR - and normally the NZ teams esp the derbies.
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I don't think potential difficulties in air travel would diminish the value of a TV rights deal. But whether or not that's an issue with SA is probably irelevent as we're assumimg they're goooone anyway. Argentina? Yeah sure, not as straightforward as it was when Air NZ flew into BA, but I don't think that's going to preclude the Jaguares from playing in SR.
It'd be great to see the actual numbers re which broadcasters globally pay what for the rights to Sanzaar competitions. But I wouldn't think whoever broadcasts it in the UK pays anything like as much as Super Sport SA.
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The key for me is to make it an even competition. Not one team winning year after year. It gets boring.
NZR's main focus has always been the AB's. This must change otherwise the next level down will continue to die
So the financial structure must be such so that every team has a chance to succeed and win it.One way to do this (inNZ) is for every team must pick up all the cost paid to AB players. In this way it will stop one team stacking their side with high paid AB players as they will run out of money (or exceed a salary cap).
For Aust they will need to drop down to 3 teams
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Some NZ viewership (sample) data.
Motherfuckers called me a Millennial. I'm Gen X you shitheads.
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@Winger said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
The key for me is to make it an even competition. Not one team winning year after year. It gets boring.
NZR's main focus has always been the AB's. This must change otherwise the next level down will continue to die
So the financial structure must be such so that every team has a chance to succeed and win it.One way to do this (inNZ) is for every team must pick up all the cost paid to AB players. In this way it will stop one team stacking their side with high paid AB players as they will run out of money (or exceed a salary cap).
For Aust they will need to drop down to 3 teams
Can you further explain how the franchises will pay all these salaries directly?
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NZR will pay the same amount to each SR team, then they are responsible for the ABs wage. Instead of contracting with NZR they contract with each SR team. So most of the money the ABs get paid is from SR team, under salary cap. I guess plus appearance fees/match fees?
Won't work but I guess that's the idea
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@Machpants so AB's get paid by the SR team for playing for the AB's?
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@shark said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
And why would the franchises suffer a guy being managed by the All Blacks if they've chosen to pay him top dollar to be there.
Yeah this (plus a million other issues). Why would you pay a guy an AB salary if he's going to be off with the AB's and not worth as much to your SR team? We could potentially get the ridiculous situation of guys in NZ declaring themselves ineligible for AB selection (or playing for other countries to top up their salary).
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It would need some thought. But at present its creating the opposite effect. Where its encouraging the best players to move to the best team. And that teams stays as the best team.
NZR need to come up with a (financial?) system to ensure the best players are evenly distributed between the 5 teams
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@shark said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Can't see how it would work. The All Blacks could lose a player they want or even need if he's deemed surplus to requirements at franchise level.
And what if the SR franchise pays a guy an AB salary but he's not then selected by the ABs...? Also, the ABs earn the lion's share of the money so why should they leave it up to the franchises to decide how it is spent
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@Machpants plus South African money comes from a subscriber base of 2.6 million, which is shrinking every year by around 100k. Which probably is accelerating due to Covid19. Even if they bringing in more money, that's not going to be the case in the future
Rugby viewership more than double Rugby League in NZ - Roy Morgan Research
