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    From the Three Wise Men to the Also Rans?

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    Yeah when Henry put together a team including yet another staid Canterbury coach and a seemingly insecure, failed AB coach we were all ecstatic.

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    Glad Plumtree is there. Improvement from Cron?

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack

    Cron's role has been replaced by Feek. Plumtree is coaching the forwards which was a role undertaken by Steve Hansen himself. It's hard not to feel like this team is inferior in every aspect to the the previous coaching team, and the one before that.

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    @Cantab79

    Who knows, we have months to wail and gnash over it.

    It was clear Hansen was getting stale, and I'd wager he still called the shots, some had said several years ago our scrummaging, all over NZ was being taught the Cron way and was becoming stale and less of a weapon.

    Maybe Fozzie will have some new ideas and manage his team well, similarly Feek and Plumtree who seem to have fashioned decent careers under others, Moar I know less about, McLeod, well at times our defence was miserly, others it was shit.

    This team will be starting with a relayively clean slate too in terms of player personnel, a new captain, sans one of our best performers over the past 4 or 5 years; so it is the ushering in of a new era...whether that is good or bad remains to be seen.

    At least the next 2 years wont be boring...it might suck, or might be great, but I cant see it being boring.

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    Seriously underwhelming. My expectations for the All Blacks next year are the lowest they've been for twenty years.

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    Looks like an average super rugby coaching team to me. This team would have been at least 5th or 6th if I was selecting the coaches.
    But I am excited to see what we produce next year. Maybe Fosters innovative vision blew away the panel....

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    Cron was always going to be very difficult to replace, those are huge shoes to fill. Feek isn’t a terrible choice.

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    @taniwharugby @sparky @Darren I think we will be gnashing / scowling / snarling for a whille yet....and I think there will be plenty to gnash over....
    However the proof is in the pudding, and they ALL have 2 yerars to show us eaxtly what they can do. Who knows? They may come up trumps (can I say that?) or they may be scythed down with the first tornado, but it will be interesting, I grant you that...

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    its a strange feeling right now, hopefully will all change next year

    maybe the hum drum performance in that semi had a lot to do with it, and we have been spoilt with some great times

    Cant remember feeling this unenthused with the All blacks,

    and then the announcement of that coaching panel is not helping

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    Its all good, anyone can coach the All Blacks and they will win 😉 But in truth this will be a really good test of the depth and natural ability of the AB's. I'm excited for the year ahead.

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    Bring on Ireland.

    That is all.

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    @ACT-Crusader There was only one team more stale than the ABs at the RWC....

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    Analysis: Why Ian Foster needs to be given the chance to prove himself as head coach of the All Blacks

    Analysis: Why Ian Foster needs to be given the chance to prove himself as head coach of the All Blacks

    Foster was ahead of his time ten years ago and will do brilliantly in the top job. Unfortunately, many of the New Zealand public do not seem to agree, with many citing his head coaching role with the Chiefs as evidence.

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    That RugbyPass article sets out on for the "for" arguments for Foster. But not even his greatest detractor (i.e. me) thinks the man is completely without merit.

    What it omits entirely is the other 90% of being a head coach -- selection (both players and support staff), management of personal issues, game preparation, dealing with the bad times etc.

    I have little doubt that the 2020 ABs will turn on some master-classes in attacking rugby.

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    Interview with Ian Foster on the Breakdown (11 Feb 2020). Starts at approx. 18'00" (watch until the end).

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    @Stargazer thanks fella.

    Any comment on it - i'm looking forward to watching it later?

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    "We need to figure out how to play teams physically when they play us physically. More and more teams are wanting to prevent us from playing."

    Yes.

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    @Tim said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    "We need to figure out how to play teams physically when they play us physically. More and more teams are wanting to prevent us from playing."

    Yes.

    Jeez, that's some new wisdom right there. Next he'll tell us that forwards win games, you have to win the gain line, and the set piece is quite important.

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    @voodoo said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    @Tim said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    "We need to figure out how to play teams physically when they play us physically. More and more teams are wanting to prevent us from playing."

    Yes.

    Jeez, that's some new wisdom right there. Next he'll tell us that forwards win games, you have to win the gain line, and the set piece is quite important.

    What do you want him to say?

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