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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    Hansen had 86.9% (88.8 if you count draws as 50%)
    Henry 85.4% (no draws)
    Mitchell 82.1% (83.8%)
    Smith 70.6% (no draws)
    Hart 75.6% ( 77.8%)
    Mains 67.6% (69.1%)

    Thanks to http://www.lassen.co.nz/pickandgo.php

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    @Machpants said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    Boks will be happy, apparently

    Keo  /  Dec 10, 2019  /  Opinions

    Why South Africans should be rooting for Ian Foster as All Blacks coach - KEO.co.za

    Why South Africans should be rooting for Ian Foster as All Blacks coach - KEO.co.za

    South African rugby writer Mark Keohane believes it will benefit the Springboks if Ian Foster is named as Steve Hansen's All Blacks coaching successor

    Keo? Pfft

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    So we are losing some decent leadership, loose forward balance needs to be figured out. Backline selects itself, depending on how he wants to play.
    Its a big opportunity for Foster to make some changes. This will be his team and I'm looking forward to what changes he does make. I'll be disappointed if we don't see some changes in playing style. I think my worry is just more of the same, we need to innovate and push the envelope.

    Can't help but feel he would be my last choice though.

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    @Stargazer said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    What I've seen looks boring.

    Nothing wrong with boring if you're winning...

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    Completely wishful thinking but perhaps they want a caretaker coach until other coaches become available. Of course, if he does well then he keeps the job, so it should be win win.

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    @mofitzy_ said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    Completely wishful thinking but perhaps they want a caretaker coach until other coaches become available. Of course, if he does well then he keeps the job, so it should be win win.

    The key is not just the head coach but the coaching team. Joseph and Brown are a great team but Joseph without Brown not so good

    The other aspect is coaches who can understand and get the best from players from very different backgrounds etc. For example I hope they have one at least non white coach or selector.

    If Foster can get a team of quality assistant coaches who gel together it could be a great outcome. Plumtree if he is involved would be a great start

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    @No-Quarter said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    I recall everyone on here being stoked with the team we selected in Perth...

    It was a decent team. I don't think the players were the problem.

    The Fern, collectively, had been banging on about how poor our game plans had been since the Lions series.

    I maintain that we were right -- it was in the coaching box that we failed, not the players on the pitch.

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    Conversely there were high expectations heading into 2000 after the Wayne Smith appointment and things didn’t really pan out that well....

    Wayne Smith is the first guy I would put on any coaching list. He's absolutely brilliant.

    Our assessment of his ability was correct except one rather key flaw -- he isn't a head coach.

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    @mofitzy_ said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    Completely wishful thinking but perhaps they want a caretaker coach until other coaches become available. Of course, if he does well then he keeps the job, so it should be win win.

    Under-qualified succession candidates like Foster seem to always get the gig over younger upstarts in instances like this because it is simultaneously harder to turn them down (part of the furniture, sympathy, connections), but easier to fire them in the future (you had your chance, we gave you the benefit of the doubt etc).

    It's the wrong way of making decisions and the antithesis of what NZ Rugby is at it's strongest; a meritocracy.

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    @booboo Hanson was something like 79% over the last 3yrs I think

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    Nothing wrong with boring if you're winning...

    plenty moaned about rugby being boring a few years back...team picks itself, we win too much...

    be interesting to see what changes they make to the playing 23

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    @voodoo said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    @booboo Hanson was something like 79% over the last 3yrs I think

    Hasen should really be viewed as the first cycle with McCaw/Carter/Smith/Nonu and the second cycle without. Much like Hart he was a 95% coach in the first half of his tenure and effectively sub 70% against tier one sides in the second stanza.

    The percentage thing is pretty much a misnomer anyway unless you are comparing full cycle to full cycle the ~10% difference between Smith and Mitchell is that Smith had two 3N and one EOYT vs two EOYT, two 3N and a RWC.

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    @rotated said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    @voodoo said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

    @booboo Hanson was something like 79% over the last 3yrs I think

    Hasen should really be viewed as the first cycle with McCaw/Carter/Smith/Nonu and the second cycle without. Much like Hart he was a 95% coach in the first half of his tenure and effectively sub 70% against tier one sides in the second stanza.

    The percentage thing is pretty much a misnomer anyway unless you are comparing full cycle to full cycle the ~10% difference between Smith and Mitchell is that Smith had two 3N and one EOYT vs two EOYT, two 3N and a RWC.

    And Aussie in one of their best ever cycles.

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    Those winning percentages remind me of why the "Time to unplug the Mains" headline was apt back in the 90's.

    (Preemptive strike: for 1995 - Brian Lochore was back in the mix for the 1995 RWC campaign)

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/118136175/scott-robertson-would-be-an-ideal-all-blacks-assistant-coach

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/118150766/nz-rugby-chief-mark-robinson-admits-all-blacks-coach-process-requires-review

    Admiting that they didn;t get it right, basically.

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    @Machpants Interesting the WC Review hasn't been completed so had no impact on Fosters appointment. Would be funny if the review points the finger at him not doing enough lol.

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    Can anyone recall an AB coach unwanted as universally as Foster? Deans/Wylie/Hart was all provincial bullshit, Mitchell was wasn't hated until well into the journey.

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    @Crazy-Horse guess he can only exceed expectations...surely?

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    @Crazy-Horse Mains in 1992 was fun times on usenet.

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    @Bovidae internet? I was still sending smoke signals back then.

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