Hansen
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@Billy-Tell said in Hansen:
Used to be a huge fan of Hansen but the non selection of Cane, dropping BFA for a flaky asf Jordie and the decision to pick weak reserve scrummaging props have seriously made him look like an amateur. Unfortunately he will be remembered for this and in hindsight should have bowed out at the end of 2017 as originally planned.
To be replaced by who though?? Like who was actually available and proven in 2017?? All the good coaches were contracted elsewhere, you’d have basically been left with foster.
I was referring more to Hansen's legacy and not what his departure would have done to the ABs. Granted Foster would have been even worse in all likelihood but Hansen would have gone down as arguably our best ever coach if he had stepped down in 2017.
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Eddie Jones was right when he said Hansen always thought about what was best for the game.
I think we went too far in recent times trying to be loved and always trying to project a positive image at all times. In the end the worse thing you say about a Rugby player is that they are nice. Time for the All Blacks to be more ruthless and nasty.
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You can't be coach for 8 years, still be world number 1 and only benefit from the coach who came before you. He's obviously a good coach.
Our game plan was still frustrating though. In the first half, England were on top and we were under pressure. So what did we do? We kicked the ball back to them at the first opportunity. Is that the coaching? Or do our players just have low rugby IQ? Why can't we be content with just keeping the ball, absorbing the pressure and striking later when we get on top? We have done this repeatedly over the past few years. Either our game plan is poor or Hansen has not been able to implement a good game plan for absorbing and confronting pressure.
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Hansen has been a great coach, but I don't understand our tactics at all last night.
We picked a side to attack the lineout, then didn't even try that often, and when we did, failed.
As part of that lineout plan, we also appeared to have a plan to kick the ball away - no way that Aaron Smith attacking box kick wasn't under direction - and back to the bad old days of shitty chip kicks from Barrett. In fact it looked like we were so confident in our ability to dismantle their lineout that we didn't care about retaining possession in general - running into touch all the time as well.
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After we lost to Australia in 03 ,
Ted and co when taking over , put lots of emphasis back into our forwards , Making them dominant Again,
It’s like we have done the full cycle, and it needs to happen again
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@kiwiinmelb I am not knocking them just stating the obvious once they came up against the big boys. They exceeded expectations and good for them.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Hansen:
@Chris Japan probably had no option. They are too small.
It’s hard to knock what japan achieved when they exceeded all expectations
Not Knocking them think they lite up the WC great to see them go well for Rugbys sake just stating the Game plan doesn't work against some teams
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@kiwiinmelb I am not knocking them just stating the obvious once they came up against the big boys. They exceeded expectations and good for them.
Get where you are coming from , I guess in Japan’s case they played to their strengths, if they had taken them on up front they may have got monstered more so .
That shouldn’t be the case for us
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Eddie Jones was right when he said Hansen always thought about what was best for the game.
I think we went too far in recent times trying to be loved and always trying to project a positive image at all times. In the end the worse thing you say about a Rugby player is that they are nice. Time for the All Blacks to be more ruthless and nasty.
And, in any event, it didn’t work, because people will hate us no matter what as long as we are successful
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Eddie Jones was right when he said Hansen always thought about what was best for the game.
I think we went too far in recent times trying to be loved and always trying to project a positive image at all times. In the end the worse thing you say about a Rugby player is that they are nice. Time for the All Blacks to be more ruthless and nasty.
I took Jones's comments to mean Shag's opinions on world rugby issues, such as the world league and the welfare of lower tier nations. I think he generally acts with class and is refreshingly honest but that doesnt translate into generosity towards the opposition once the game starts
