TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98)
-
@Chester-Draws Donald misses that kick, game restarts at 22, not half way...so you dont know what happens after that...maybe they restart, Read takes ball on full runs 30m to score...maybe they catch on full run 75m and score...
-
while our defence has been very good in the past 2 games, on reflection v SA we gave up alot down the left wing, when both Ioane and Bridge were there, so I did wonder if it points more to whatever structure they are trying to play than both players finding themselves out of position a number of times?
I dont recall it being an issue v Argentina, but then we did play slightly differently again, either that or Rassie saw a weakness in our defensive structure there from that game?
-
-
I think in 2015 bb played that impact player coming off the bench better than what we saw from dmac,
I think bb is still as good now as he was then , it’s a matter of utilising it,
I suspect and I might be wrong, starting rm might be a ploy of giving him extra minutes to get him ready, but they will revert back to bb starting at 10, rm to come on with bb to go back to 15 to change up the shape and style of attack
-
@dejo said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
YES a criticism. Weepu had a corked hammy and they a) still played him and b) still had him taking kicks even though the brains trust and himself knew he wasn’t 100% fit.
WTF!!!!
My recollection was Weepu tweaked his hammy in warmups but didn't tell anyone. Had someone else taken those kicks, the French would've been out of the game and you wouldn't have the retards continuing to protest that they were robbed.
-
@taniwharugby said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Donald misses that kick, game restarts at 22, not half way...so you dont know what happens after that...maybe they restart, Read takes ball on full runs 30m passes to a winger, it is intercepted and they score at the other end ...
Man, that's dark.
I prefer my version where our good kicker scores the three points though.
-
Two things:
(1) The commentators said that BB's goal kicking success rate during super rugby was 79%. RM's was 77%.
(2) Gilbert rugby balls will be used at the RWC not Adidas balls. I remember Carter had a preference for one over the other. -
-
@Bovidae said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Two things:
(1) The commentators said that BB's goal kicking success rate during super rugby was 79%. RM's was 77%.
(2) Gilbert rugby balls will be used at the RWC not Adidas balls. I remember Carter had a preference for one over the other.Good point. Rugby pass has discussed this (link below).
Richie has kicked well for the ABs so far (87% but only 15 attempts), but this season, Barrett was kicking better (81% according to rugbypass in comparison to 77%). Dmac was better than that though, with 86% (only 35 attempts, due to injury, but he was kicking very well). That percentage would make him up with the very best.
An inconvenient truth - The astounding difference in Beauden Barrett's goal kicking percentage based on ball brand
In exploring a left-field explanation for his up-and-down results, we looked at his goal-kicking statistics when considering the type of ball used and found an astounding difference.
-
-
@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Bovidae RM changed his kicking routine during the season, which significantly increased his success rate. During the finals, his kicking success rate was 100%.
Yeah Richie was crap early, then 24/25 to finish up this season. Better last year too. He's the more reliable kicker.
-
@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Bovidae RM changed his kicking routine during the season, which significantly increased his success rate. During the finals, his kicking success rate was 100%.
Another good point!
One interesting thing for me is that Richie kicks ridiculously well at home 85%, but not so well away (60%). Barrett is the opposite at about 85%.
That could be due to where tries are scored though! Also, the Saders take less penalty kicks too.
-
@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@gt12 Rugbypass' stats are unreliable. Moreover, stats over a longer period of time don't take into account changes I was referring to in my previous post.
Rugbypass kick stats are the same - we're not talking tackles made here. But, to satisfy you, I've used other stats in my next post.
-
@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@gt12 Rugbypass' stats are unreliable. Moreover, stats over a longer period of time don't take into account changes I was referring to in my previous post.
Or where the kicks are taken from (in front of the posts or out wide).
My point was that BB isn't as bad as many think he is.
-
@gt12 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Richie kicks ridiculously well at home 85%, but not so well away (60%). Barrett is the opposite at about 85%.
Didn't know that about BB, but he kicks for a team called the "Hurricanes". There might be a reason that they are called that and he doesn't get high % at home.
-
@Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@gt12 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Richie kicks ridiculously well at home 85%, but not so well away (60%). Barrett is the opposite at about 85%.
Didn't know that about BB, but he kicks for a team called the "Hurricanes". There might be a reason that they are called that and he doesn't get high % at home.
Yep, it does seem to indicate that the Caketin is not a nice place to kick.
Josh Ioane is another who has a magic percentage at home (87% or something) but only 77% away - probably helped by playing undercover at home.
Edit: I should add that most kickers are much better at home (Dmac is at 90% apparently), which makes Barrett's number more interesting.
-
@kev said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@junior I don’t think Hansen was happy with SBWs effort. Dragged early. Back to Counties. Indicating to me that he didn’t do what was planned.
That seems to make sense - the fact Hansen said the most positive thing was the he didn't get injured is fairly damning. Thinking back to some of his one-out hit ups in that first half, I think he perhaps went off script a little bit there. It would certainly explain the complete lack of support and Hanswen can't have been happy that his first two hit-ups resulted in turnovers.
-
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@pakman said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Duluth said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Nah. He is an AB fullback to me. He has been shifted to wing when it suits, but he is a full back.
Smith offers so much more at fullback. He’s ok on the wing, but I want him touching the ball more often and making more decisions
Want Bender in the team as wise heads are essential come knock out time. That said, Beaudy looked deadly at 15 and was my MOTM. Bender available at 14 OR 15 is for me a good arrow to have in the quiver.
I've been dead against the BB at 15 brigade, mostly because he's the best 10 and I have doubts about RM at 10. But after the other night I'm starting to change my tune. He isn't just a good 15, he could be a great 15. We only need RM not to fark up and to kick goals. I think it's worth giving another shot. The worst case is that BB just goes back to 10.
I think they'll persevere with it, TBH. It's the closest to the BB-D-Mac two 10s axis they played last year, which seems to be there preferred means of dealing with the rush defence. I don't think we can play Bender in the second play-making role with nearly the same threat - it's just not a natural part of his game.
-
@Bovidae said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@gt12 Rugbypass' stats are unreliable. Moreover, stats over a longer period of time don't take into account changes I was referring to in my previous post.
Or where the kicks are taken from (in front of the posts or out wide).
My point was that BB isn't as bad as many think he is.
Just looking at the 2016-2018 eoyt. His kicking is close to 100%. Very weird considering some of the howlers in NZ. Hope that % will transfer over to Japan 🤞
